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|    Rolf Martens to All    |
|    UNITE! Info #019en-rep: Social-imperiali    |
|    16 Mar 08 23:57:31    |
      XPost: alt.politics.radical-left, alt.activism, de.soc.politik.misc       XPost: alt.politics.india.communist       From: rolf.martens@comhem.se              was the one mainly responsible for the genocidal aggression against       Afghanistan, had made some small modifications in their standpoint concerning       Stalin but had by no means stopped supporting their forerunner's condemnation       of him.              On the other hand, the genuine Marxist-Leninists, i.e. those who adhered to Mao       Zedong's correct repudiation of modern revisionism and of Soviet       social-imperialism and who of course condemned the aggression of that power in       Afghanistan, in the main *supported* Stalin, while also criticizing his faults.              [Added in 2008: See for instance Infos #064en, "Notes on Soviet history (1)"       (19.04.1998), part 1/5 etc, #071en, "Notes on Soviet history (2)" (15.06.1998),       part 1/3 etc, and #160en, "Revolutionary leaders' errors" (19.01.2002), part       1/2 and part 2/2.]              So what people might, with the least justification, be called "Stalinists" in       connection with Afghanistan - those who repudiated Stalin and perpetrated the       aggression against that country or those who defended him in the main and       condemned that aggression? Obviously, only the latter, if the term "Stalinist"       is to have any meaning at all. But it's in precisely the *contrary* way that       the Trotskyites and some openly bourgeois media have used that term in this       connection. Clearly, their "theory" is an utterly confused one.              What's wrong with the term "Stalinism"? Basically, the fact that it doesn't       distinguish between the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie and the dictatorship of       the proletariat.              The openly bourgeois media of course never have recognized the fact that the       class character of the Soviet Union, at a certain point in its history,       changed. The question of more precisely when the restoration of capitalism in       the Soviet Union took place is one on which some different theories might be       argued - because of those still unsolved questions of history. But the fact       that, in the 1960s at the latest, the former dictatorship of the proletariat in       that state had been replaced with a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie is       incontrovertible. The "theory" of "Stalinism", calling the actions of the       revisionist regime in the Soviet Union under Brezhnev etc "Stalinist", pretends       that that regime had the same basic character as the one under Stalin's       leadership, which is untrue.              The Trotskyites are using the term "Stalinism" to denote - what? They       themselves have always advanced that theory, on the Soviet Union, that it's a       "worker's state though with bureaucratic deformations". They have been saying       this about the Soviet Union *after* capitalism in fact was restored in that       state too. This is extremely reactionary. It flagrantly goes against the       clearly visible facts.              Do the Trotskyites with their term "Stalinism" want to denote suppression? So       it seems. But there are two quite opposite kinds of suppression, just and       unjust. One kind is by a socialist state against counter-revolutionaries, which       is just suppression. Another kind is suppression against the masses, which is       unjust. Now it's the case that under Stalin's rule, there *was* a considerable       amount of such unjust suppression too, and not only just suppression. Here       there are some important questions of history on which much more clarification       is needed. But when describing things, you must at least differentiate between       the two kinds of suppression. That's what the adherents of Trotsky are *not*       doing.              Do they want, by their use of the term "Stalinism", to denote unjustified       military intervention? There *were* some such actions undertaken by the Soviet       Union under Stalin. One clear case of it was the assault on Finland in 1939-40.       That was in fact a *social-imperialist* type of war on the part of the Soviet       Union, which, nevertheless, had not yet turned into a social-imperialist state.       The second war of the Soviet Union against Finland, the one of 1941-44, was a       *just* war on its part, since Finland was then supporting the Hitler fascists'       aggression - a support which of course the Soviet Union in part had provoked       itself by its earlier unjust action against that country, but anyway.              Typical for at least certain trends within Trotskyism too is a tendency to       describe the entire World War II as an "imperialist" war, that is, an "unjust"       war on the part of "all" the warring parties, though in fact that war of course       was in the main an anti-fascist one, with certain imperialist elements involved       as a secondary aspect.              To call the Soviet revisionists' aggression in Afghanistan a "Stalinist" war is       unjustified and misleading too, since the main war actually led by Stalin was a       *just* one, that against the invading Hitler fascists. The fact that the Stalin       regime in the Soviet Union also was responsible for certain military actions       which must be condemned as unjust is, despite everything, a *secondary* aspect       of that regime.              It may be true that this secondary aspect was a rather important one. Very       murky do some things seem to be which were done by the Soviet government in       1939-1940 and early 1941 in relation to Hitler fascism. And these things also       have a certain prehistory which likewise merits a closer investigation. But       still, to call the Soviet revisionists' Afghan war a "Stalinist" one is       basically misleading.                     C) Briefly on the superpowers as rivals and allies              In the issue of the last weekend (5-6.10.96) of the US imperialists' newspaper       [the] International Herald Tribune, there was an article on Afghanistan (by       Philip Bowring on p. 8, "Kabul Reaps a Whirlwind as the World Watches") in       which the earlier aggression by the social-imperialists against that country       was described as a "Soviet-U.S. proxy war". The present situation was commented       on in the following terms:              "If Afghanistan is to survive at all as a political entity playing its       historical role as a buffer state, some loose, Swiss-style federation seems the       only plausible solution. That might have been possible had the Soviet-U.S.       proxy war in Afghanistan not been followed by the U.S.-Iranian cold war. For       now, however, it is only a dream."              Here, obviously, speaks a mouthpiece of another US imperialist faction than       that which supported (with or without quotation marks) the Afghan resistance       against the social-imperialists. Was that war *in essence* a "Soviet-U.S. proxy       war"? No. It had some elements of such a proxy war in it, but, like the Vietnam       war, which some people have likewise tried to make out was such a war, it was       in the main an aggression by a foreign reactionary power and a struggle on the       part of the people against that aggression. That is, it was mainly a       "North-South" conflict, *not* in the main an "East-West" one.              In that recent IHT article is visible the element of superpower *partnership*,              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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