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   Message 7,814 of 8,857   
   Fred to Aardvark   
   Re: welfare state - buying your votes   
   01 Jun 08 07:14:56   
   
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   From: fred@fredwilliams.ca   
      
   On Saturday 31 May 2008 16:56, Aardvark wrote:   
      
   > On May 30, 9:38 pm, Fred  wrote:   
   >> On Friday 30 May 2008 17:56, Aardvark wrote:   
   >>   
   >> > On May 30, 2:34 pm, apchera...@gmail.com wrote:   
   >> >> I used to be a libertarian. then I read some history books. now   
   >> >> I'm socialist.   
   >>   
   >> > i guess you then like the idea of people being poor and eternally   
   >> > dependent on the state. no surprise there as it comes with the   
   >> > territory of being a socialist.   
   >>   
   >> When the people *are* the state, there is no problem with them being   
   >> dependent on themselves.   
   >   
   > but (again), socialism makes them eternally dependent on government.   
   > pick one fred.   
   >   
           They *are* the government.   
      
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