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   From: fred@fredwilliams.ca   
      
   On Sunday 01 June 2008 16:29, Aardvark wrote:   
      
   > On Jun 1, 6:14 am, Fred  wrote:   
   >   
   >> > but (again), socialism makes them eternally dependent on   
   >> > government. pick one fred.   
   >>   
   >> They *are* the government.   
   >>   
   >> --   
   >> Peace,   
   >> Fred   
   >   
   > i'll put that on the stack of other patently absurd notions you have   
   > spewed on this newsgroup. what utter rot.   
   >   
   > you can't seriously buy into such an insane and totally lacking in   
   > truth statement as that, can you?   
   >   
           That's what socialism is about: Power to the people.  Why would you   
   oppose that?   
      
   > in your socialist fantasyland i'm sure that *to you* everyone is owned   
   > by the government and you would seem quite happy with such a draconian   
   > idea.   
   >   
           Exactly the opposite isn't it.  The people own the government.   
      
   > we are not the government, we are not all employed by it although we   
   > are to some degree or other are bound by it's many decrees and pushed   
   > around by it's veritable legions of busybody agents.   
   >   
           In the U.S. no, but in Cuba the answer is yes.   
      
   > but you keep using your "magic" to try to sell your failed oppressive   
   > ideology of socialism.   
      
           It's totally counter oppressive.  If the people are in charge they   
   cannot be oppressed.   
      
      
   --   
   Peace,   
   Fred   
      
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