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   Message 7,989 of 8,857   
   Tim Howard to Buerste   
   Re: Let's clear things up about William    
   12 Oct 08 21:49:27   
   
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   From: tim.howard@suddenlink.net   
      
   Buerste wrote:   
   > "Tim Howard"  wrote in message   
   > news:48f2b967$0$5493$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...   
   >> Recently McCain/Palin have been criticizing Obama for his "association"   
   >> with "terrorist" William Ayers.   
   >>   
   >> Now, all Obama can do is denounce Ayers past acts (or alleged acts), say   
   >> that he was only a kid at the time, contend that the two do not have a   
   >> friendship, etc.  If he would point out the logical flaws in the   
   >> Republican statements, he would just be accused of being a terrorist   
   >> sympathizer.  So I will take up the burden.   
   >>   
   >> First of all, William Ayers was never convicted of anything   
   >> Second, Ayers was never even put on trial for anything (even Palin has   
   >>    backed off lately, now only calling Ayers a "former terrorist").   
   >> Third, Ayers is not currently wanted for any crimes.   
   >> Forth, he has not been involved in any bombings or violent activities   
   >>    for perhaps 35 years.   
   >> Fifth, he is a distinguished professor of education for years who has   
   >>    been on various boards and commissions since the early 90s that push   
   >>    education reform.  If they are going to condemn Obama for serving on   
   >>    those boards with him, which was not why he got involved with those   
   >>    boards, they why don't they criticize the dozens of Chicago officials   
   >>    who have associated with Ayers much more closely.   
   >> Sixth, the bombings he was responsible for (the Pentagon, the Chicago   
   >>    Haymarket, the NY police station and the Capitol Building) did not   
   >>    kill anyone.   
   >> Seventh, while the bombings should be opposed--accept perhaps blowing up   
   >>    the statue in Haymarket, which was erected to honor police who   
   >>    brutalized peaceful union protesters during the "Haymarket Riot", it   
   >>    is clear that they were not designed to kill anyone either.  While   
   >>    they could have killed people, which is why they should be condemned,   
   >>    it is clear the acts Ayers was involved with did not intend to kill.   
   >> Eighth, the event Obama attended at Ayers' house was organized by the   
   >>    person Obama was to succeed in the IL state legislator, not by him.   
   >>    It was to "introduce" him to various Chicago dignitaries.  What was   
   >>    the man supposed to do, refuse to attend his own coming out party?   
   >>    Again, William Ayers was rehabilitated in the eyes of all those   
   >>    important people, so what does anyone expect Obama, a newly elected   
   >>    state Senator, to do?   
   >> Ninth, while Ayers has apparently hosted other events at his home to   
   >>    raise money for Obama, Obama did not attend those events.   
   >> Tenth, Ayers has nothing to do with Obama's campaign nor is there any   
   >>    evidence he has been an influence on Obama's life.   
   >>   
   >> To people who still think William Ayers should be punished in some what   
   >> for being part of the Weatherman, I say complain to the government. They   
   >> dropped all charges against him in 1980--27 years ago!  Get over it.   
   >   
   > Is there a difference between "Legality" and "Morality"?   
   >   
   >   
   Yes   
      
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