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   HD to fasgnadh   
   Re: Atheist Ministry of Truth- Rewriting   
   31 Jan 09 12:26:51   
   
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   From: herpem@bigpond.com   
      
   "fasgnadh"  wrote in message   
   news:498433ff$0$7277$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...   
   > Seon Ferguson wrote:   
   >>   
   >> Stalin murdered millions of people because he was a communist not an   
   >> Atheist.   
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   > “Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism.”   
   >     -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)   
   >   
   > To be a member of the Communist Party you had to be an atheist.   
   >   
   > “Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism.”   
   >     - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)   
   >   
   > "You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...   
   > all this talk about God is sheer nonsense" - Stalin   
   >    -  E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin,   
   >       Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940   
   >   
   > But it was not just the Atheism of the leadership,   
   > but of the entire State apparatus;   
   >   
   > The Atheist leadership's policies were implemented under   
   > the Red Terror, via gulags and executions, the use of   
   > every arm of the state for anti-religious propaganda   
   > and the forced indoctrination of CHILDREN!   B^[   
   >   
   > “We do not fight against believers and not even clergymen.   
   > WE FIGHT AGAINST GOD to snatch believers from Him.”   
   >      -Vechernaia Moskva, a Soviet newspaper   
   >   
   > “Let us drive out the Capitalists from the earth,   
   > and God from Heaven!” (early Soviet slogan)   
   >   
   > "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."   
   >     - Daniel Peris,   
   >     "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"   
   >      Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853   
   >   
   > "Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"   
   >   
   > "Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested.   
   > In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over   
   > 3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks.   
   > Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water   
   > in winter until they turned to ice-pillars.   
   > In 1922, the Solovki Camp of Special Purpose, the first Russian   
   > concentration camp was established in the Solovki Islands in the White   
   > Sea"   
   >   
   > John Shelton Curtis, The Russian Church and the Soviet State   
   >      (Boston: Little Brown, 1953)   
      
      
   Half the Cubans go to church on Sunday's   
      
      
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   >> Hitler did not kill the Jews or gypsies or gays or whoever in the   
   >> holocaust because he was an atheist.   
   >   
   >   
   > Who claimed he did?  Do you know something we don't?   
   >   
   > Hitler clearly believed in the cult of the Ubermensch.   
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