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From: fasgnadh@yahoo.com
HD wrote:
> "fasgnadh" wrote in message
> news:498433ff$0$7277$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>> Stalin murdered millions of people because he was a communist not an
>>> Atheist.
>>
>> “Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism.”
>> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>> To be a member of the Communist Party you had to be an atheist.
>>
>> “Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism.”
>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>> "You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...
>> all this talk about God is sheer nonsense" - Stalin
>> - E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin,
>> Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940
>>
>> But it was not just the Atheism of the leadership,
>> but of the entire State apparatus;
>>
>> The Atheist leadership's policies were implemented under
>> the Red Terror, via gulags and executions, the use of
>> every arm of the state for anti-religious propaganda
>> and the forced indoctrination of CHILDREN! B^[
>>
>> “We do not fight against believers and not even clergymen.
>> WE FIGHT AGAINST GOD to snatch believers from Him.”
>> -Vechernaia Moskva, a Soviet newspaper
>>
>> “Let us drive out the Capitalists from the earth,
>> and God from Heaven!” (early Soviet slogan)
>>
>> "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
>> - Daniel Peris,
>> "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
>> Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
>>
>> "Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"
>>
>> "Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested.
>> In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over
>> 3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks.
>> Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water
>> in winter until they turned to ice-pillars.
>> In 1922, the Solovki Camp of Special Purpose, the first Russian
>> concentration camp was established in the Solovki Islands in the White
>> Sea"
>>
>> John Shelton Curtis, The Russian Church and the Soviet State
>> (Boston: Little Brown, 1953)
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> Half the Cubans go to church on Sunday's
>
That would be why it's not included in the list
of murderous State Atheist tyrannies then, wouldn't it! B^)
So, thanks for proving the point, savage and violent *Atheist*
regimes are the problem. Nations such as Vietnam, or Cuba, which
were nationalist struggles that sought communist support because
that was all they could find when faced with continuing Western
imperialism and colonialism, are not cursed with the misery, torture
terror, and massive death toll of the ATHEIST REGIMES!
I see you are starting to see the pattern, those EXPLICITLY
ATHEIST REGIMES, which persecute religions, are, INVARIABLY,
totalitarian shitholes with a very short lifespan, which
end in ignominy and failure.
Join the dots! B^]
'State atheism is the official promotion of atheism by a government,
typically by active suppression of religious freedom and practice.[1]
State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist countries, such
as the former Soviet Union, China, Communist Albania, Communist
Afghanistan, North Korea and Communist Mongolia under communist rule
also promoted state atheism and suppressed religion. In these nations,
the governments viewed atheism as an intrinsic part of communist ideology. "
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>>> Hitler did not kill the Jews or gypsies or gays or whoever in the
>>> holocaust because he was an atheist.
>>
>> Who claimed he did? Do you know something we don't?
>>
>> Hitler clearly believed in the cult of the Ubermensch.
>>
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