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   From: darstec@neo.rr.com   
      
   fasgnadh wrote:   
      
   > Seon Ferguson wrote:   
   >>   
   >> Stalin murdered millions of people because he was a   
   >> communist not an Atheist.   
   >   
   >   
   > “Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism.”   
   >      -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)   
   >   
   > To be a member of the Communist Party you had to be an atheist.   
   >   
      
   The perfect communism is Christianity.  Read the Acts of the Apostles or   
   Thomas Moore's Utopia.   
      
   Russia did not have communism but rather militaristic feudalism in the guise   
   of communism.  Those at the top had, the rest had not.  That is not   
   communism.  Religious Orders who take the vow of poverty practice communism   
   but not, except for the Knights Templar or Order of Hospitalers, which were   
   another form of militaristic feudalism mixed with a little Christian   
   communism.   
      
      
   > “Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism.”   
   >      - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)   
   >   
   > "You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...   
   > all this talk about God is sheer nonsense" - Stalin   
   >     -  E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin,   
   >        Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940   
   >   
   > But it was not just the Atheism of the leadership,   
   > but of the entire State apparatus;   
   >   
   > The Atheist leadership's policies were implemented under   
   > the Red Terror, via gulags and executions, the use of   
   > every arm of the state for anti-religious propaganda   
   > and the forced indoctrination of CHILDREN!   B^[   
   >   
   > “We do not fight against believers and not even clergymen.   
   > WE FIGHT AGAINST GOD to snatch believers from Him.”   
   >       -Vechernaia Moskva, a Soviet newspaper   
   >   
   > “Let us drive out the Capitalists from the earth,   
   > and God from Heaven!” (early Soviet slogan)   
   >   
   > "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."   
   >      - Daniel Peris,   
   >      "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"   
   >       Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853   
   >   
   > "Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"   
   >   
   > "Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested.   
   > In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over   
   > 3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks.   
   > Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water   
   > in winter until they turned to ice-pillars.   
   > In 1922, the Solovki Camp of Special Purpose, the first Russian   
   > concentration camp was established in the Solovki Islands in the White   
   > Sea"   
   >   
   > John Shelton Curtis, The Russian Church and the Soviet State   
   >       (Boston: Little Brown, 1953)   
   >   
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   >   
   >   
   >> Hitler did not kill the Jews or gypsies or   
   >> gays or whoever in the holocaust because he was an atheist.   
   >   
   >   
   > Who claimed he did?  Do you know something we don't?   
   >   
   > Hitler clearly believed in the cult of the Ubermensch.   
      
   --   
   Later,   
   Darrell   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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