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   From: herpem@bigpond.com   
      
   "Darrell Stec"  wrote in message   
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   > HD wrote:   
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   >> "Darrell Stec"  wrote in message   
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   >>> HD wrote:   
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   >>>> "Seon Ferguson"  wrote in message   
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   >>>>> "HD"  wrote in message   
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   >>>>>> "Seon Ferguson"  wrote in message   
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   >>>>>>> "Peter Webb"  wrote in message   
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   >>>>>>>> Atheists have done lots of bad things, but not because they are   
   >>>>>>>> atheists, but because they are bad people.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Your dead right. Stalin murdered millions of people because he was a   
   >>>>>>> communist not an Atheist.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Jesus Christ was a Communist.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> Just because he told his followers to give up everything and follow   
   >>>>> him? (you don't see the super rich religious right doing that today   
   >>>>> now   
   >>>>> do you?)   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Neither did the Pharisees (Seperatists) the super rich who seperated   
   >>>> themselves from the poor. They didn't like His communist teachings so   
   >>>> they   
   >>>> had Him Crucified.   
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   >>>   
   >>> There are several problems with that scenario, the least of which is   
   >>> that   
   >>> Jesus is a fictitious character of the second century CE.   
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   >>   
   >> When He comes again He will tell you otherwise.   
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   >   
   > Nymshifting again, I see.  Since he never came before, your use of "again"   
   > is erroneous.   
      
   And you know that How?   
   Have you been there?   
   Do you have prove?   
      
      
      
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   >>>   
   >>> First of all, the Pharisees were not reviled in the first century.  That   
   >>> occurred in the second century.  Secondly, the Jewish people had the   
   >>> authority to administer capital punishment on their own.  This is   
   >>> evident   
   >>> from the passages (at least three) where they tried to stone Jesus in   
   >>> public but he got away.  The Jewish people had to give up that right to   
   >>> the   
   >>> civil authority after 70 CE in part, and finally in 135 CE when they   
   >>> were   
   >>> totally driven from their Holy Land.   
   >>>   
   >>> As to the Pharisees, while they were of a special class and powerful,   
   >>> they   
   >>> were not necessarily rich.  The correlation between power, class, and   
   >>> wealth was a complex one.  Wealth did not necessarily equate to class,   
   >>> but the upper class were allowed to acquire wealth, while for the most   
   >>> part,   
   >>> that was denied to the lower classes.  For a fuller explanation of the   
   >>> topic see http://tinyurl.com/b535eu.   
   >>>   
   >>> I do agree, that the Jesus portrayed in scripture was a communist.  Acts   
   >>> clearly demonstrates that.  Most people confuse the militaristic   
   >>> feudalism of modern (relatively speaking) communists with real communism   
   >>> to the point   
   >>> where that is now the de facto definition of communism.  Strictly   
   >>> speaking,   
   >>> it is not.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> --   
   >>> Later,   
   >>> Darrell   
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   > --   
   > Later,   
   > Darrell   
      
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