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   From: alaspectrum@netvigator.com   
      
   fasgnadh wrote:   
      
   > Darrell Stec played Humpty Dumpty "It means what I say it means" :   
   > > fasgnadh wrote:   
   > >   
   > >> Seon Ferguson wrote:   
   > >>> Stalin murdered millions of people because he was a   
   > >>> communist not an Atheist.   
   > >>   
   > >> ‭Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism.”   
   > >>      -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)   
   > >>   
   > >> To be a member of the Communist Party you had to be an atheist.   
   > >>   
   > >   
   > > The perfect communism is Christianity.   
   >   
   > Well the imperfect version, the Atheist one,   
   > killed over 20,000,000 people.   
      
   It really must be a struggle for you to live with a pathetically sick mind   
      
   >   
   >   
   >  > Read the Acts of the Apostles or   
   > > Thomas Moore's Utopia.   
   >   
   > The Ministry of truth has been working overtime with you,   
   > hasn't it!   
   >   
   > War is Peace   
   >   
   > Love is Hate   
   >   
   > Lies are Truth   
   >   
   > Christianity is Communism   
   >   
   > Communism is Militant Fuedalism   
   >   
   > # Blackwhite: means the habit of impudently claiming   
   > # that black is white, in contradiction of the plain facts.   
   > #   
   > # This demands a continuous alteration of the past, made   
   > # possible by the system of thought which really embraces   
   > # all the rest, and which is known in NewSpeak as   
   > # doublethink.   
   >   
   > > Russia did not have communism but rather militaristic feudalism in the   
   guise   
   > > of communism.  Those at the top had, the rest had not.  That is not   
   > > communism.   
   >   
   > Have  it your way then, it was just totalitarian Atheism! B^D   
   >   
   > "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."   
   >      - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)   
   >   
   > > Religious Orders who take the vow of poverty practice communism   
   > > but not, except for the Knights Templar or Order of Hospitalers, which were   
   > > another form of militaristic feudalism mixed with a little Christian   
   > > communism.   
   >   
   > # Duckspeak: a NewSpeak term meaning literally to   
   > # quack like a duck or to speak without thinking.   
   > # to speak rubbish and lies for the good of "The Party"   
   > # may be good.   
   >   
   > # "Ultimately it was hoped to make articulate speech   
   > # issue from the larynx without involving the higher   
   > # brain centres at all."   
   >   
   > # duckspeak is ambivalent in meaning. Provided that the   
   > # opinions which were quacked out were orthodox ones,   
   > # it implied nothing but praise.   
   >   
   > >   
   > >> ‭Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism.”   
   > >>      - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)   
   > >>   
   > >> "You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...   
   > >> all this talk about God is sheer nonsense" - Stalin   
   > >>     -  E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin,   
   > >>        Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940   
   > >>   
   > >> But it was not just the Atheism of the leadership,   
   > >> but of the entire State apparatus;   
   > >>   
   > >> The Atheist leadership's policies were implemented under   
   > >> the Red Terror, via gulags and executions, the use of   
   > >> every arm of the state for anti-religious propaganda   
   > >> and the forced indoctrination of CHILDREN!   B^[   
   > >>   
   > >> ‭We do not fight against believers and not even clergymen.   
   > >> WE FIGHT AGAINST GOD to snatch believers from Him.”   
   > >>       -Vechernaia Moskva, a Soviet newspaper   
   > >>   
   > >> ‭Let us drive out the Capitalists from the earth,   
   > >> and God from Heaven!” (early Soviet slogan)   
   > >>   
   > >> "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."   
   > >>      - Daniel Peris,   
   > >>      "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"   
   > >>       Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853   
   > >>   
   > >> "Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"   
   > >>   
   > >> "Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested.   
   > >> In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over   
   > >> 3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks.   
   > >> Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water   
   > >> in winter until they turned to ice-pillars.   
   > >> In 1922, the Solovki Camp of Special Purpose, the first Russian   
   > >> concentration camp was established in the Solovki Islands in the White   
   > >> Sea"   
   > >>   
   > >> John Shelton Curtis, The Russian Church and the Soviet State   
   > >>       (Boston: Little Brown, 1953)   
   > >>   
   > >>   
   > >>   
   > >>   
   > >>> Hitler did not kill the Jews or gypsies or   
   > >>> gays or whoever in the holocaust because he was an atheist.   
   > >>   
   > >> Who claimed he did?  Do you know something we don't?   
   > >>   
   > >> Hitler clearly believed in the cult of the Ubermensch.   
   > >   
   >   
   > --   
   >   
   >       Subject: AQOTM fraud is a clear Breach of AQOTM RULES!!!!   8^o   
   >                Quotemeister *nemo*toad implicated!  8^o   
   >       Message-ID: <49847258$0$3253$afc38...@news.optusnet.com.au>   
   >   
   >       http://tinyurl.com/b4hemx   
   >   
   >       BwAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!   
      
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