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   fasgnadh to bob young   
   Re: Atheist Ministry of Truth- Rewriting   
   01 Feb 09 12:01:06   
   
   XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics, aus.politics   
   XPost: aus.religion, alt.politics.republicans, uk.politics.misc   
   From: fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au   
      
   bob young wrote:   
   >   
   > fasgnadh wrote:   
   >   
   >> Darrell Stec played Humpty Dumpty "It means what I say it means" :   
   >>> fasgnadh wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:   
   >>>>> Stalin murdered millions of people because he was a   
   >>>>> communist not an Atheist.   
   >>>> β�­Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism.β��   
   >>>>      -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)   
   >>>>   
   >>>> To be a member of the Communist Party you had to be an atheist.   
   >>>>   
   >>> The perfect communism is Christianity.   
   >> Well the imperfect version, the Atheist one,   
   >> killed over 20,000,000 people.   
   >   
   > It really must be a struggle for you to live with a pathetically sick mind   
   >   
      
   No,   ....I log off and you are gone! B^D   
      
   I would stay and play, but a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent   
   would make me look cruel...   
      
      
      
   >>   
   >>  > Read the Acts of the Apostles or   
   >>> Thomas Moore's Utopia.   
   >> The Ministry of truth has been working overtime with you,   
   >> hasn't it!   
   >>   
   >> War is Peace   
   >>   
   >> Love is Hate   
   >>   
   >> Lies are Truth   
   >>   
   >> Christianity is Communism   
   >>   
   >> Communism is Militant Fuedalism   
   >>   
   >> # Blackwhite: means the habit of impudently claiming   
   >> # that black is white, in contradiction of the plain facts.   
   >> #   
   >> # This demands a continuous alteration of the past, made   
   >> # possible by the system of thought which really embraces   
   >> # all the rest, and which is known in NewSpeak as   
   >> # doublethink.   
   >>   
   >>> Russia did not have communism but rather militaristic feudalism in the   
   guise   
   >>> of communism.  Those at the top had, the rest had not.  That is not   
   >>> communism.   
   >> Have  it your way then, it was just totalitarian Atheism! B^D   
   >>   
   >> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."   
   >>      - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)   
   >>   
   >>> Religious Orders who take the vow of poverty practice communism   
   >>> but not, except for the Knights Templar or Order of Hospitalers, which were   
   >>> another form of militaristic feudalism mixed with a little Christian   
   >>> communism.   
   >> # Duckspeak: a NewSpeak term meaning literally to   
   >> # quack like a duck or to speak without thinking.   
   >> # to speak rubbish and lies for the good of "The Party"   
   >> # may be good.   
   >>   
   >> # "Ultimately it was hoped to make articulate speech   
   >> # issue from the larynx without involving the higher   
   >> # brain centres at all."   
   >>   
   >> # duckspeak is ambivalent in meaning. Provided that the   
   >> # opinions which were quacked out were orthodox ones,   
   >> # it implied nothing but praise.   
   >>   
   >>>> β�­Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism.β��   
   >>>>      - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...   
   >>>> all this talk about God is sheer nonsense" - Stalin   
   >>>>     -  E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin,   
   >>>>        Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940   
   >>>>   
   >>>> But it was not just the Atheism of the leadership,   
   >>>> but of the entire State apparatus;   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The Atheist leadership's policies were implemented under   
   >>>> the Red Terror, via gulags and executions, the use of   
   >>>> every arm of the state for anti-religious propaganda   
   >>>> and the forced indoctrination of CHILDREN!   B^[   
   >>>>   
   >>>> β�­We do not fight against believers and not even clergymen.   
   >>>> WE FIGHT AGAINST GOD to snatch believers from Him.β��   
   >>>>       -Vechernaia Moskva, a Soviet newspaper   
   >>>>   
   >>>> β�­Let us drive out the Capitalists from the earth,   
   >>>> and God from Heaven!β�� (early Soviet slogan)   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."   
   >>>>      - Daniel Peris,   
   >>>>      "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"   
   >>>>       Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested.   
   >>>> In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over   
   >>>> 3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks.   
   >>>> Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water   
   >>>> in winter until they turned to ice-pillars.   
   >>>> In 1922, the Solovki Camp of Special Purpose, the first Russian   
   >>>> concentration camp was established in the Solovki Islands in the White   
   >>>> Sea"   
   >>>>   
   >>>> John Shelton Curtis, The Russian Church and the Soviet State   
   >>>>       (Boston: Little Brown, 1953)   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Hitler did not kill the Jews or gypsies or   
   >>>>> gays or whoever in the holocaust because he was an atheist.   
   >>>> Who claimed he did?  Do you know something we don't?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Hitler clearly believed in the cult of the Ubermensch.   
   >> --   
   >>   
   >>       Subject: AQOTM fraud is a clear Breach of AQOTM RULES!!!!   8^o   
   >>                Quotemeister *nemo*toad implicated!  8^o   
   >>       Message-ID: <49847258$0$3253$afc38...@news.optusnet.com.au>   
   >>   
   >>       http://tinyurl.com/b4hemx   
   >>   
   >>       BwAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!   
   >   
      
      
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         Subject: AQOTM fraud is a clear Breach of AQOTM RULES!!!!   8^o   
                  Quotemeister *nemo*toad implicated!  8^o   
         Message-ID: <49847258$0$3253$afc38...@news.optusnet.com.au>   
      
         http://tinyurl.com/b4hemx   
      
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