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   "HD"  wrote in message   
   news:pKhhl.16467$cu.5574@news-server.bigpond.net.au...   
   >   
   > "Kate "  wrote in message   
   > news:49cea36c.1338579328@news-west.newscene.com...   
   >> On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 03:43:07 GMT, "HD"  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>"Kate "  wrote in message   
   >>>news:49ccf6c7.1294382062@news-west.newscene.com...   
   >>>> On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:33:34 GMT, "HD"  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>"Kate "  wrote in message   
   >>>>>news:49c8b164.1276619859@news-west.newscene.com...   
   >>>>>> On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:22:16 GMT, "HD"  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>"Peter Webb"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>news:4983e8a8$0$20975$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...   
   >>>>>>>> Atheists have done lots of bad things, but not because they are   
   >>>>>>>> atheists,   
   >>>>>>>> but because they are bad people.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Whereas Muslim terrorists do bad things because they are Muslims.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Atheism is not comparable to having religious beliefs; religious   
   >>>>>>>> nutters   
   >>>>>>>> quite often kill people for religious reasons; atheists do not.   
   >>>>>>>> Atheism   
   >>>>>>>> is   
   >>>>>>>> not a religion, and it does not dictate how people should live and   
   >>>>>>>> who   
   >>>>>>>> they should hate.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Let me see if I got that right.   
   >>>>>>>Atheists do bad thinngs because they are bad people.   
   >>>>>>>Christians do bad things, not because they are bad people, but   
   >>>>>>>because   
   >>>>>>>they   
   >>>>>>>are religious.   
   >>>>>>>Is that an Irish joke?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The point is, atheism doesn't justify doing bad things, religion   
   >>>>>> does.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Good people do bad things, like not let gay people marry, because of   
   >>>>>> religion.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>"At that time many will call evil good and they will call good evil."   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Precisely - if you rely on religion to tell you what's good,   
   >>>> eventually your progeny will disown you.   
   >>>   
   >>>Why?   
   >>   
   >> Because what you did wasn't truly moral - religion isn't about   
   >> defining morality, it's about power and tribalism.   
   >   
   > If not religion, then who defines morality?   
   > Where does morality come from?   
   >   
      
   People have their own morals HolyDimwit.   
      
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