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From: herpem@bigpond.com
"Kate " wrote in message
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> On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:59:18 -0600, "Lord Vetinari"
> wrote:
>
>>"HD" wrote in message
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>>>> HD wrote:
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>>>>>> HD wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>> "Peter Webb" wrote in
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> Atheists have done lots of bad things, but not because they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheists, but because they are bad people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Your dead right. Stalin murdered millions of people because he
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>> a communist not an Atheist.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ was a Communist.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just because he told his followers to give up everything and
>>>>>>>>>> follow
>>>>>>>>>> him? (you don't see the super rich religious right doing that
>>>>>>>>>> today
>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>> do you?)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Neither did the Pharisees (Seperatists) the super rich who
>>>>>>>>> seperated
>>>>>>>>> themselves from the poor. They didn't like His communist teachings
>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> had Him Crucified.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are several problems with that scenario, the least of which
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> Jesus is a fictitious character of the second century CE.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When He comes again He will tell you otherwise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nymshifting again, I see. Since he never came before, your use of
>>>>>> "again" is erroneous.
>>>>>
>>>>> And you know that How?
>>>>> Have you been there?
>>>>> Do you have prove?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is encubent upon the person making the positive statement to offer
>>>> evidence. You assert the positive, i.e. that Jesus lived. So it is
>>>> you
>>>> who must provide the evidence.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No-no-no, everyone knows that Jesus lived, You are the one claiming that
>>> he did not live. You are the one going against popular believe.
>>
>>I know that jebus never lived. I'm more popular, too.
>>
>>>> First of all there is not one contemporary account of Jesus nor of any
>>>> of
>>>> the apostles. Secondly, it is evident from the gospels themselves that
>>>> the
>>>> stories were written at least 100 years after the period in which Jesus
>>>> was
>>>> said to have been alive.
>>>
>>>
>>> My gread grandfather died 100 years ago. I can tell you everything about
>>> his life and can write it down. Eg, the name of his father and mother,
>>> his
>>> brothers and sisters, the place were he was born, where he grew up, when
>>> he got married what work he did during his life etc. etc. 100 years is a
>>> short time.
>
> You have records, pictures and accounts of other people who knew of
> him.
Yes, just like the ones who wrote the Bible.
>
> Nobody has any of that for Jesus, not even the town where he
> supposedly lived.
>
>>
>>Implanted memories, that's what those are. You were created in one the
>>CIAs
>>secret labs, but the experiment went wrong.
>>
>
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