XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics, aus.politics   
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   From: darstec@neo.rr.com   
      
   HD wrote:   
      
   >   
   > "John Baker"  wrote in message   
   > news:l7odo4d4b10nvfhofri2mnr31g0h5ql3he@4ax.com...   
   >> On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 22:56:57 GMT, "HD"  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>"Lord Vetinari"  wrote in message   
   >>>news:sukhl.11632$W06.191@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com...   
   >>>> "HD"  wrote in message   
   >>>> news:HVdhl.16390$cu.16295@news-server.bigpond.net.au...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> "Lord Vetinari"  wrote in message   
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   >>>>>> "HD"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>> news:IsTgl.16012$cu.974@news-server.bigpond.net.au...   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>> news:4983fd52$0$14899$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...   
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   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> "Peter Webb"  wrote in   
   >>>>>>>> message news:4983e8a8$0$20975$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...   
   >>>>>>>>> Atheists have done lots of bad things, but not because they are   
   >>>>>>>>> atheists, but because they are bad people.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Your dead right. Stalin murdered millions of people because he was   
   >>>>>>>> a communist not an Atheist.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Jesus Christ was a Communist.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> He never existed.  You cannot prove that he did, either.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Hitler did not kill the Jews or gypsies or gays or   
   >>>>>>>> whoever in the holocaust because he was an atheist.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> He did so because he was a xian.   
   >>>>> He never existed.   
   >>>>> All the books, all the photos, the films etc. etc are all fakes, just   
   >>>>> like the bible.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Ummmm....you're claiming that Hitler never existed?  Cute, like a heart   
   >>>> attack.   
   >>>Same as your claim that Jesus never existed.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> The difference being, Sunshine, that we have more evidence than any   
   >> sane person would require that Hitler existed. The same can't be said   
   >> for Jesus. In fact, there are no reliable contemporary extra-Biblical   
   >> references to him at all. Some writers of the time mentioned the   
   >> existence of Christians, but the existence of Christians doesn't prove   
   >> the existence of Christ.   
   >>   
   >   
   > You have evidence in 27 authorised books.   
   > Plus a lot more unouthorised books and fragments   
   > How many more do you want   
      
      
   None of those were written within 100 years of his lifetime.  Did Jesus   
   authorize those 27 books or even know about them?  What fragments   
   specifically do you mean and how were they dated?   
      
   --   
   Later,   
   Darrell   
      
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