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   From: fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au   
      
   Richo wrote:   
   > On Mar 3, 8:41 pm, fasgnadh  wrote:   
   >> john....@gmail.com wrote:   
   >>> fasgnadh wrote:   
   >>>> The most influential Atheist of all time was a cold blooded killer.   
   >>>> In 1998, he was named by Time magazine as one of the 100 most   
   >>>> influential people of the 20th century.   
   >>>> Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov was born on 22 April 1870 in Simbirsk   
   >>>> – later renamed Ulyanovsk after its most famous son – beside the   
   >>>> Volga River in the Russian Empire. Lenin was the son of   
   >>>> Ilya Nikolaevich Ulyanov, a successful Russian official in public   
   >>>> education who wanted democracy, and Maria Alexandrovna Ulyanova.   
   >>>> "Chairman of the Council of People’s Commissars   
   >>>> In office        8 November 1917 – 21 January 1924   
   >>>> Preceded by      Alexander Kerensky   
   >>>>                  (as President of the Provisional Government)   
   >>>> Succeeded by      Alexei Rykov   
   >>>>                  (Joseph Stalin as Supreme Leader)   
   >>>> Born              22 April 1870(1870-04-22) Simbirsk, Russian Empire   
   >>>> Died              21 January 1924 (aged 53)   
   >>>> Gorki,           Russian SFSR, Soviet Union   
   >>>> Nationality      Russian   
   >>>> Political party  Bolshevik Party   
   >>>> Spouse     Nadezhda Krupskaya   
   >>>> Profession      Politician, Revolutionary, Lawyer   
   >>>> Religion      Atheist"   
   >>>> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."   
   >>>>     -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)   
   >>>> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."   
   >>>>     - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)   
   >>>> "How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"   
   >>>>     - Lenin   
   >>>> "In May 1887, when Lenin was 17 years old, his eldest brother Alexander   
   >>>> was arrested and hanged for participating in a terrorist bomb plot   
   >>>> threatening the life of Tsar Alexander III.   
   >>>> His sister Anna, who was with Alexander at the time of his   
   >>>> arrest, was banished to his family estate in the village of   
   >>>> Kokushkino, about 40 km (25 mi.) from Kazan.   
   >>>> These events radicalized Lenin, and his official Soviet   
   >>>> biographies describe them as being central to the revolutionary   
   >>>> track of his life. It is also significant, perhaps, that   
   >>>> this emotional upheaval transpired in the same year he   
   >>>> enrolled at the Kazan State University.   
   >>>> Far from being a working class proletarian, Lenin studied at the   
   >>>> University of Saint Petersburg, and, by 1891, had been admitted to the   
   >>>> Bar. In January 1892, Lenin was awarded a first class degree   
   >>>> in law by the University."   
   >>>> "Following the assassination attempt on Lenin and the successful   
   >>>> assassination of Petrograd chief of secret police Moisei Uritsky, Lenin   
   >>>> ... lying severely wounded in the hospital instructed: "It is necessary   
   >>>> - secretly and urgently to prepare the terror."   
   >>>>    - Christopher Andrew and Vasili Mitrokhin (2000).   
   >>>>      The Mitrokhin Archive: The KGB in Europe and the West.   
   >>>>      Gardners Books. ISBN 0-14-028487-7, page 34.   
   >>>>    - Bernstein, Richard (30 October 1996).   
   >>>>      "Lenin Paints Himself Black With His Own Words".   
   >>>>       The New York Times.   
   >>>> "The Cheka killed and abused their victims without mercy   
   >>>>    - Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler: The Age of Social Catastrophe,   
   >>>>      Gellately.   
   >>>> "Earl Ray Beck Professor of History at Florida State University,   
   >>>> claims that suspected enemies could expect brutal torture,   
   >>>> flogging, maiming or execution. Some were shot, others   
   >>>> drowned, frozen, buried alive, or hacked to death by swords,   
   >>>> and quite often those about to be executed were forced to   
   >>>> dig their own graves"   
   >>>> "Orlando Figes, Professor of History at Birkbeck College   
   >>>> claims the torture practiced by the Chekas was matched   
   >>>> only by the Spanish Inquisition"   
   >>>>    The Spanish Inquisition occurred in medieval times,   
   >>>>    the atheist holocaust in the 20th century!   
    >>>   
   >>> The Buddha was not a cold blooded killer.   
    >>   
   >> Of course not, Siddhartha was not an atheist.   
   >>   
   >   
   > You asked him did you?   
   >   
      
   I read what those you claim to be atheists say about their Buddhist beliefs   
      
   "Maitreya (Sanskrit) or Metteyya (Pāli) is a future Buddha of this world   
   in Buddhist eschatology. In some Buddhist literature, such as the   
   Amitabha Sutra and the Lotus Sutra, he is referred to as Ajita Bodhisattva.   
      
   Maitreya is a bodhisattva who in the Buddhist tradition is to appear on   
   Earth, achieve complete enlightenment, and teach the pure dharma.   
   According to scriptures, Maitreya will be a successor of the historic   
   Śākyamuni Buddha, the founder of Buddhism. The prophecy of the arrival   
   of Maitreya is found in the canonical literature of all Buddhist sects   
   (Theravāda, Mahāyāna, Vajrayāna) and is accepted by most Buddhists as a   
   statement about an actual event that will take place in the distant future."   
      
   "Maitreya is prophesied in the Sanskrit text, the Maitreyavyākaraṇa (The   
   Prophecy of Maitreya), stating that gods, men, and other beings will   
   worship Maitreya; it implies that he is a teacher of trance sadhana:   
      
        "will lose their doubts, and the torrents of their cravings   
         will be cut off: free from all misery they will manage to   
         cross the ocean of becoming; and, as a result of Maitreya's   
         teachings, they will lead a holy life. No longer will they   
         regard anything as their own, they will have no possession,   
         no gold or silver, no home, no relatives! But they will lead   
         the holy life of chastity under Maitreya's guidance. They will   
         have torn the net of the passions, they will manage to enter   
         into trances, and theirs will be an abundance of joy and   
         happiness, for they will lead a holy life under Maitreya's   
         guidance." (Trans. in Conze 1959:241   
      
      
   Looks like you 21st century Buddhist Atheists are already in a trance!!!   
      
   You have forgotten your previous claims that atheism is no a belief in   
   anything and now admit that it includes Re-incarnation of your soul,   
   and the Second Coming of your Lord, Guatama Buddha as Maitreya!   
      
      
   BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAA   
      
   > He was unconcerned about the existence of God   
      
   We are all unconcerned about God's existence.. theists and agnostics alike.   
      
   > He taught the 4 Noble Truths and the Eight Fold way.   
      
      
   He taught re-incarnation.   
      
   I am pleased you atheist liars have finally admitted your spiritual   
   belief that your soul keeps incarnating in different bodies till   
   you reach enlightenment..   
      
   How long before the Second Coming of your Lord?   B^D   
      
      
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