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From: fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au
john.jsm@gmail.com wrote:
> fasgnadh wrote:
>> john.jsm@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On 3 Mar, 10:38, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> For months Atheists have been denying that Atheism is a religion,
>>>>
>>>> now we have an atheist claiming that Buddha was an atheist! 8^o
>>>>
>>>> Ergo an "Atheist" believes in the soul being re-incarnated until
>>>> it reaches enlightenment and escapes the wheel of Karma.
>>>
>>> Buddhists do not believe in the existence of a soul.
>>
>> B^D Now we have atheists telling us what Buddhists believe in
>>
>> Then what is "re-incarnated" in the belief of your Buddhist atheism,
>> if not an immaterial essence?
Snipped because it's too embarassing a question?? pffft!
>> Can you also elaborate on the Buddhist atheist views on Deva's and the
>> role Gods play in human affairs!?
>
> See the Wikipedia article.
So you can't elaborate on the Buddhist views on Deva's, Gods and demigods!
> My understanding of the term 'atheism' is normal enough.
Sure, they are all as confused, contradictory and unwilling to define it
as you are! B^D
> The word can mean different things.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHA!
Sure, the atheists can't agree, and when they define Buddha as an
ahteist, including belief in Deva's and re-incarnation, everyone knows
their definition of atheism is as elastic as the rules of their
AQORM fraud. Atheists are the cheap end of nihilism and sophistry.
And empty philosophy which offers nothing and never has, EXCEPT for
a history of bloody tyranny in the Union of Savage Slaughter and
Repression (USSR) Mao's Great Leap Backward and Cultural Devolution,
and Pol Pot's Year Zero! EVERY EXPLICITLY ATHEIST STATE HAS BEEN A
BLOODY TYRANNY!
>> How long before you expect the return of your Promised One?
Run along, then. Clearly you know fuck all about atheism, or
buddhism and have nothing to add which will alleviate the confusion
of these atheist nitwits who insist that atheists don't believe
in gods, unless they are buddhist atheists, in which case they do,
but they CANT GIVE YOUR ANY EVIDENCE supporting THEIR religious beliefs!
>>
>> "Maitreya (Sanskrit) or Metteyya (Pāli) is a future Buddha of this world
>> in Buddhist eschatology. In some Buddhist literature, such as the
>> Amitabha Sutra and the Lotus Sutra, he is referred to as Ajita Bodhisattva.
>>
>> Maitreya is a bodhisattva who in the Buddhist tradition is to appear on
>> Earth, achieve complete enlightenment, and teach the pure dharma.
>> According to scriptures, Maitreya will be a successor of the historic
>> Śākyamuni Buddha, the founder of Buddhism. The prophecy of the arrival
>> of Maitreya is found in the canonical literature of all Buddhist sects
>> (Theravāda, Mahāyāna, Vajrayāna) and is accepted by most Buddhists as a
>> statement about an actual event that will take place in the distant
>> future."
>>
>> "Maitreya is prophesied in the Sanskrit text, the Maitreyavyākaraṇa (The
>> Prophecy of Maitreya), stating that gods, men, and other beings will
>> worship Maitreya; it implies that he is a teacher of trance sadhana:
>>
>> "will lose their doubts, and the torrents of their cravings
>> will be cut off: free from all misery they will manage to
>> cross the ocean of becoming; and, as a result of Maitreya's
>> teachings, they will lead a holy life. No longer will they
>> regard anything as their own, they will have no possession,
>> no gold or silver, no home, no relatives! But they will lead
>> the holy life of chastity under Maitreya's guidance. They will
>> have torn the net of the passions, they will manage to enter
>> into trances, and theirs will be an abundance of joy and
>> happiness, for they will lead a holy life under Maitreya's
>> guidance." (Trans. in Conze 1959:241
>>
>>
>> Looks like you 21st century Buddhist Atheists are already in a trance!!!
>>
>> You have forgotten your previous claims that atheism is no a belief in
>> anything and now admit that it includes Re-incarnation of your soul,
>> and the Second Coming of your Lord, Guatama Buddha as Maitreya!
The "Atheist" beliefs of the Athei-Buddhists:
>> @ "Buddhism speaks of ultimate reality as pure, spotless,
>> @ changeless Mind that is present in all things, all times,
>> @ and in all beings and which can never die. Kalu Rinpoche
>> @ elucidates: "...pure mind cannot be located, but it is
>> @ omnipresent and all-penetrating; it embraces and pervades
>> @ all things. Moreover, it is beyond change, and its open
>> @ nature is indestructible and atemporal."[3
Now Who does that sound like? B^D
But wait there is more..
>> @ "The text refers to Vairocana Buddha as the "Bhagavat" ("Blessed One,"
>> @ a term traditionally linked in Indian discourse with "the Divine"],
>> @ "Master of the Dharma, the Sage who is completely perfect, who is
>> @ all-pervasive, who encompasses all world systems, who is All-Knowing,
>> @ the Lord Vairocana".[13]
>> @
>> @ The Tantric text, The Sarva-Tathagata-Tattva-Samgraha,
>> @ characterizes Vairocana as follows:
>> @
>> @ He is universal Goodness, beneficial, destroyer [of suffering],
>> @ the great Lord of Happiness, sky womb, Great Luminosity
>> @ … the great All-perceiving Lord … He is without beginning or
>> @ end … [He is] Vishnu [God] … Protector of the world, the sky,
>> @ the earth … The elements, the good benefactor of beings,
>> @ All things … the Blessed Rest, Eternal … The Self of all
>> @ the Buddhas … Pre-eminent over all, and master of the world.
>> @
>> @ Similar God-like descriptions are encountered in the All-Creating King
>> @ Tantra (Kunjed Gyalpo Tantra), where the universal Mind of
>> @ Awakening (in its mode as "Samantabhadra Buddha") declares of
>> @ itself:[14]
>> @
>> @ I am the core of all that exists. I am the seed of all that
>> @ exists. I am the cause of all that exists. I am the trunk
>> @ of all that exists. I am the foundation of all that exists.
>> @ I am the root of existence. I am ‘the core’ because I contain
>> @ all phenomena. I am ‘the seed’ because I give birth to everything.
>> @ I am ‘the cause’ because all comes from me. I am ‘the trunk’
>> @ because the ramifications of every event sprout from me.
>> @ I am ‘the foundation’ because all abides in me. I am called
>> @ ‘the root’ because I am everything."
>> @
Some of you Buddhist Atheists are really interesting! B^)
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