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   From: fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au   
      
   richard.smol@gmail.com wrote:   
   > On Mar 3, 11:38 am, fasgnadh  wrote:   
   >   
   >> For months Atheists have been denying that Atheism is a religion,   
   >> now we have an atheist claiming that Buddha was an atheist!  8^o   
   >>   
   >> Ergo an "Atheist" believes in the soul being re-incarnated until   
   >> it reaches enlightenment and escapes the wheel of Karma.   B^D   
   >   
   > But he didn't believe in any gods,   
      
   Rubbish   
      
   "since a Buddha shows the way to nirvana, a Buddha is called "the   
   teacher of the gods and humans" (Skt: śāsta deva-manuṣyāṇaṃ).   
   According   
   to the Pali Canon the gods have powers to affect only so far as their   
   realm of influence or control allows them. In this sense therefore, they   
   are no closer to nirvana than humans and no wiser in the ultimate sense.   
   A dialogue between the king Pasenadi Kosala, his general Vidudabha and   
   the historical Buddha reveals a lot about the relatively weaker position   
   of gods in Buddhism"   - Kannakatthala Sutta, (MN-90)   
      
   "The Pali Canon also attributes supernatural powers to enlightened   
   beings (Buddhas), that even gods may not have. In a dialogue between   
   king Ajatasattu and the Buddha, enlightened beings are ascribed   
   supranormal powers (like human flight, walking on water etc.),   
   clairaudience, mind reading, recollection of past lives of oneself and   
   others. Yet, according to the Buddha, an enlightened person realizes the   
   futility of these powers and instead unbinds himself completely from   
   samsara through discernment."   
      
      
    > hence he was an atheist.   
      
   An ignorant assertion followed by the word 'hence' shows   
   you know bugger all about Buddha.   
      
    >  Yes, it's THAT simple.   
      
   Not as simple as you are.   
      
      
   > RS   
      
      
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