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From: seongf@gmail.com
"raven1" wrote in message
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> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 06:53:02 GMT, fasgnadh
> wrote:
>
>>raven1 wrote:
>>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>>> raven1 wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:21:22 GMT, fasgnadh
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In response to a post on "The most influential Atheist of all time"
>>>>>> your atheist crony claimed **Buddha** WAS the atheist in question!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ergo 'Atheists' such as Buddha (in your fantasy world) BELIEVE in
>>>>>> re-incarnation,
>>>>>
>>>>> Belief in reincarnation does not require belief in deities.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Reincarnation, literally "to be made flesh again", is a doctrine or
>>>> metaphysical belief that some essential part of a living being (in some
>>>> variations only human beings) survives death to be reborn in a new
>>>> body.
>>>> This essential part is often referred to as the spirit or soul, the
>>>> "higher" or "true" self, "divine spark", or "I". According to such
>>>> beliefs, a new personality is developed during each life in the
>>>> physical
>>>> world, but some part of the self remains constant throughout the
>>>> successive lives."
>>>
>> > That's nice.
>> >
>>>> So tell us again about your atheist belief in a 'soul', 'true self'
>>>> or 'divine spark' being reincarnated AFTER DEATH!!?!!!!???? 8^o
>>>
>> > I don't believe in such a thing,
>>
>>You are in the minority of atheists who have expressed a view.
>
> Citations, please.
>
>>
>>For 2.3% of the population you atheists have more factions, schisms
>>and sects than Christianity! B^D
>>
>>>> The second lot of Atheist Bus Belief ads claimed that DEATH WAS FINAL!
>>>> THE END! Now you claim you get RE-INCARNATED!!!!!
>>>
>> > I made no such claim,
>>
>>Then your argument is with all the atheists who have.
>
> Again, citations please.
>
>>
>>>> I love the Emily Dickinson Death Cult! It's so ... EMO! B^D
>>>>
>>>> Atheist Bus Belief #2:
>>>>
>>>> "That it will never come again is what makes life so sweet"
>>>> - Emily Dickinson
>>>>
>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAAA
>>>>
>>>>>> Deva's (god's who influence the world),
>>>>>
>>>>> Devas are no more "gods" in any meaningful sense of the word than the
>>>>> djinni in Islam.
>>>>
>>>> So you atheists believe in SUPERNATURAL beings!! Like Faeries at the
>>>> bottom of the garden! B^D and Genies! B^D
>>>>
>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAA
>>>
>> > No, we don't.
>>
>>@ Powers of the devas
>
> We don't believe in devas, idiot.
>
>>@
>>@ From a human perspective, devas share the characteristic
>>@ of being invisible to the physical human eye. The presence
>>@ of a deva can be detected by those humans who have opened
>>@ the divyacak?us (Pali: dibbacakkhu), an extrasensory power
>>@ by which one can see beings from other planes. Their
>>@ voices can also be heard by those who have cultivated
>>@ a similar power of the ear.
>>@
>>@ Most devas are also capable of constructing illusory
>>@ forms by which they can manifest themselves to the
>>@ beings of lower worlds; higher and lower devas even
>>@ have to do this between each other.
>>@
>>@ Devas do not require the same kind of sustenance as
>>@ humans do, although the lower kinds do eat and drink.
>>@ The higher sorts of deva shine with their own intrinsic
>>@ luminosity.
>>@
>>@ Devas are also capable of moving great distances speedily
>>@ and of flying through the air, although the lower devas
>>@ sometimes accomplish this through magical aids such as a
>>@ flying chariot."
>>
>> Do Atheists borrow these Magic Chariots on the weekends???
>>
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAA
>>
>>@ " Types of deva
>>@
>>@ The devas of the Arupyadhatu have no physical form or location,
>>@ and they dwell in meditation on formless subjects.
>>
>> Sounds like some Nappisan and Abu'Baker discussing
>> probability! B^)
>>
>>@ "They do not interact with the rest of the universe."
>>
>> That is definitely some of the atheists in alt.atheistan!!
>
> But irrelevant to whether Devas are regarded as "gods". Idiot.
>
>>
>>BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH!
>>
>> So where are the Great Atheist Civilizations? On any Map?
>
> Atheism, being the absence of theism, is not a basis on which to found
> a civilization, and no one claims it is.
>
> Also, don't you answer your own question by pointing out that we're
> only 2.3% of the population, Einstein?
>
>>
>> Can we get an Invisible Deva Chariot and go see some of them?
>>
>>BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAA
>>
>> > I'm pointing out that you're a blithering moron to claim
>> > that devas are "gods" in Hinduism. Get with the program, you
>> > blithering moron.
>>
>>Prove that there is a meaningful difference between Deva's,
>>Genies, Gods and other supernatural beings! Deva's and Genies
>
> So you're saying that the Djinni, which Islam claims exist, are Gods
> according to Islam? Nice "own goal".
>
I think he needs to study what Islam really is. Islam proclaims there is no
God but Allah (the Arabic meaning of God) no sane person would say
Christians thing Angels are God's, would they?
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