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From: alaspectrum@netvigator.com
Don H wrote:
> "fasgnadh" wrote in message
> news:3gKtm.42021$ze1.5155@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > Fran wrote:
> > > On Sep 21, 4:59 pm, Richo wrote:
> > >> Hello friends,
> > >> I have finally had enough.
> > >>
> > >> it is getting to me lately.
> > >>
> > >> There are no decent arguments
> > >>
> > >> And its not any "fun" anymore.
> >
> > As usual when any quitter is honest enough to say the Atheist
> > Emperor has no Clothes, the others have to quell the Psychological
> > Dissonance by trying to assure themselves "It Isn't US!"
> >
> > "It must be the ones who have proven themselves evolutionarily SUPERIOR
> > and have WON the battele to be Naturally Selected, who are at fault"
> >
> > And so the rush to shore up their battered egos tries to EXTERNALISE
> > their own FAILURE:
> > >
> > > The problem surely is
> >
> > Begging the question.. a classic Fallacy
> >
> > > that, as atheists have ourselves noted often
> > > enough, atheism isn't itself a philosophic system.
> >
> > That should make is easy.
> >
> > If they have NOTHING to talk about, and certainly
> > NOTHING of any interest or use to the rest of the
> > world, they could
> >
> > a) simply shut the fuck up! B^D (most people with nothing to say, do!
> > or
> > b) ignore all the annoying facts and other disturbing manifestations
> > of the REAL WORLD and remain cocooned in their KILLFILE KASTLE,
> > Undisturbed by those who ask annoying questions or reveal the LIES
> > and Slanders and Forgeries to which the atheists revert.
> >
> > > It has no core mission,
> > > nor even any serious rules on who gets to call him or herself
> > > an atheist.
> >
> > So it really is a useless, ineffectual, irrelevant wast of Usenet space!
> >
> > I have been trying to tell you all that for half a year! B^D
> >
> > But does that really constitute 'the Problem', when so few want to call
> > themseleves "atheists" anyway! B^D B^D
> >
> >
> > > The trolls that come here of course do have a core purpose
> >
> > Bukakke is a an agressive Blowhard
> >
> > Virgil is a post forger
> >
> > Syd a Slanderer...
> >
> >
> > Only another atheist would call any of those a 'purpose' B^p
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > And what of those with different views, who present rational arguments
> > which the poor atheists DON'T LIKE, but can't mount a successful,
> > rational argument against?
> >
> > > One could and should ignore them
> >
> > Atheists have tried that for over six months, ever since they realised
> > they had met their memesis!
> >
> > It is the reason there DISCUSSION GROUP is DYING.. the gutless mental
> > MIDGETS CAN'T **DISCUSS** !!!! B^D
> >
> > Oh they can ABUSE, SLANDER, DISTORT, MISREPRESENT, THREATEN, FORGE,
> > CYBERSTALK, PACK-HUNT.. they just CAN'T MOUNT A RATIONAL ARGUMENT!
> >
> > > because they aren't interested in
> > > rational exchanges of opinion and refuse to engage in any
> >
> > Fran herself ran away when her attempts to claim Lenin and Stalin were
> > 'religious' rather than atheist tyrants, was blown out of the water!
> >
> > Bukakke has been running for over 140 days!
> >
> > And so Fran continues to demonstrate how Atheists 'argue'...
> >
> > WITH THEMSELVES, presenting and then demolishing their STRAWMAN
> > constructions, while RUNNING AWAY from a REAL, LIVE OPPONENT;
> >
> >
> > > -- they are
> > > purveyors of metaphysical and misanthropic humbug after all -
> >
> >
> > I just make arguments based on HISTORICAL EVIDENCE...
> >
> > it is the Atheists who stamp theri little hoofs and DEMAND that I
> > 'Prove God', Give 'Evidence' for Jesus' B^D
> >
> > All the athesits EVER Do is demand that others play in their
> > Metaphysical Humbug OBSESSIONS!
> >
> > > - but the
> > > more salient point is that what does a group of atheists talk about
> > > that is separate and distinct from secular culture and politics as a
> > > whole?
> >
> > BINGO!
> >
> >
> > IF atheists were serious that atheism is NOTHING but a single puny
> > concept, denial of the existence of God... then there IS NOTHING
> > to TALK ABOUT!
> >
> > 8^o
> >
> > Alt.Atheism IS, as I said 8 hours ago DEFUNCT!
> >
> > B^D
> >
> >
> > Cadit Quaetio!
> >
> > Of course, as history shows, atheist's LIE, and atheism is
> > a POLITICAL doctrine which has a horrific history, torturing
> > terrorising and killing over 60,000,000 people... but of
> > course, atheists don't want to talk about THAT.. like the
> > Nazis, they deny their holocausts...
> >
> > And THAT is the reason for their GLOBAL DECLINE!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >> There are no decent arguments and no opponents worthy of a battle.
> >
> > That is what the Atheists tell themselves as an EXCUSE
> > for running away from UNCOMFORTABLE TRUTH, and that
> > DISHONESTY is why they are the most DISTRUSTED minority Cult in
> > the USA;
> >
> >
> > # Atheists Identified as America£s Most Distrusted Minority"
> > # - American Sociological Association, ASA NEWS
> > #
> > # "A survey by sociologists at the University of Minnesota
> > # found that atheists are “America£s most distrusted minority.”
> > #
> > # "From a telephone sampling of more than 2,000 households,
> > # university researchers found that Americans rate atheists
> > # below Muslims, recent immigrants, gays and lesbians and
> > # other minority groups in “sharing their vision of
> > # American society.”
> > #
> > # Atheists are also the minority group most Americans are
> > # least willing to allow their children to marry.
> > #
> > # Even though atheists are few in number, not formally
> > # organized and relatively hard to publicly identify,
> > # they are seen as a threat to the American way of life
> > # by a large portion of the American public.
> > #
> > # Many of the study£s respondents associated atheism with
> > # an array of moral indiscretions ranging from criminal
> > # behavior to rampant materialism and cultural elitism.
> > #
> > # Edgell believes a fear of moral decline and resulting
> > # social disorder is behind the findings.
> > # “Americans believe they share more than rules and
> > # procedures with their fellow citizens½they share an
> > # understanding of right and wrong,” she said. “Our
> > # findings seem to rest on a view of atheists as
> > # self-interested individuals who are not concerned
> > # with the common good.”
> > #
> > # The study is co-authored by assistant professor
> > # Joseph Gerteis and associate professor Doug Hartmann.
> > # It£s the first in a series of national studies conducted
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