XPost: sci.physics, talk.politics.misc   
   From: whodat@avoid.void.net   
      
   I found this thread in sci.physics that Lahn eliminated for   
   followups; so I restored it and added the pertinent   
   talk.politics.misc to the mix.   
      
   On 10/19/2019 9:25 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:   
   > melzzzzz wrote:   
   >   
   >> AnonLinuxUser  Wrote in message:   
   >>> [communism]   
   >>   
   >> "What was it like from your perspective over there?"   
   >>   
   >> I can't say much good about it. But there were no hungry people,   
   >>   but no rich. You got apartment from state and go to cheap places   
   >>   on vacancy. Food was very cheap and restaurants, but technical   
   >>   stuff and cars expensive... all in all if you are satisfied with   
   >>   being poor, but with shelter and food, it is ok...   
      
   In short, the government established how all the workers were to live.   
      
   That's poor by modern day American standards but is easily understood to   
   be desirable to those whose life conditions are far worse.   
      
   > One of the main problems of communism, and socialism, was that due to   
   > (inherent?) human flaws it was as easily perverted to a totalitarian system   
   > as was capitalism, where a leading class established and enriched itself   
   > again, and the human rights of the rest of the population were easily   
   > violated.   
      
   There is no better understanding of a political system than by actually   
   having to live under it. This pseudosocialism in the United States today   
   would impose it on all of us in ignorance of the realities, if they   
   could.   
      
   Nothing feeds the desiring of socialism or communism more than true   
   ignorance (read stupidity) or extreme poverty under other totalitarian   
   political systems.   
      
   How many in the USA today know what constituted the work week in the   
   soviet satellite nations? How many understand what the abolition of   
   banks means to the individual? How many understand the feeling of   
   not being permitted to own the place where you live? Of course that's   
   only touching the surface.   
      
   > We could see that for example in the Soviet Union until Gorbachov’s   
   reforms,   
   > in the German Democratic Republic (where I grew up), and we are still seeing   
   > it in China.   
      
   How about the day to day living conditions in Cuba, North Korea, and   
   Venezuela? It would serve the USA very well to get a prolonged   
   interview of a few citizens from those nations on US television   
   once the interviewees felt certain they would not be forced to   
   return to the political system and lifestyle they were asked to   
   describe and their families were similarly protected.   
   >   
   > None of this has to do with Windows 10, Linux, or physics, though.   
      
   These are discussions that have no limitations restricting them to   
   certain newsgroups. Those who read w10, linux, and physics should have   
   this information "in their face" keeping in mind that nobody is forcing   
   them to read.   
      
      
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