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   From: spwhitton@spwhitton.name   
      
   Hello,   
      
   On Mon 01 Sep 2025 at 01:09pm +02, Aymeric Agon-Rambosson wrote:   
      
   > Hello everyone,   
   >   
   > Le vendredi 29 août 2025 à 11:31, Sean Whitton  a   
   > écrit :   
   >   
   >> This makes sense to me, but do we know why it was ever useful?   
   >   
   > Some upstream maintainers started pulling it as a dependency, in order to not   
   > have to condition their code to emacs versions, while also using the latest   
   > functions provided by the most recent emacs. This library made sense to them   
   > insofar as it allowed them not to have to update their code down the line.   
   >   
   > Since the upstream maintainers of some third-party elisp libraries started   
   > using it as a dependency, we had to package it to package those libraries as   
   > well.   
   >   
   >> I guess it's only useful when the version of Emacs in Debian is a major   
   >> version behind upstream?  Which is generally only a short lived   
   >> situation?   
   >   
   > Now, since a stub version of compat is included in emacs since version 30,   
   > compat is only going to be useful to us if :   
   > - a new function appears in the 31 branch.   
   > - AND the maintainer of compat decides to implement it, and   release some   
   >  version of compat 31.x.x.x.   
   > - AND some third-party elisp maintainer (of a package we package   in debian)   
   >   decides to pull this compat 31.x.x.x version as   dependency in order to   
   use   
   >  this brand new function.   
   >   
   > If this happens and we have removed compat, we will have to wait for emacs 31   
   > to be released (and packaged by us) to be able to package this new version of   
   > the third party elisp library.   
   >   
   > I am not sure how likely this situation is, and whether this is really a   
   > problem : we could perfectly decide to delay packaging a new version of a   
   > third-party elisp library until after the needed emacs version is released by   
   > upstream and packaged.   
      
   Thanks for the analysis.  I don't think the compat-el maintainers would   
   ever do that, so I still think we should remove compat-el.   
      
   --    
   Sean Whitton   
      
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