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   From: I-WAS-JUST-GANG-PROBED-BY-GOVERNMENT-ALIENS@The-IRS.nebulax.com   
      
   On 7/16/2014 9:42 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   > On Sun, 13 Jul 2014 15:27:31 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty   
   >    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 7/13/2014 3:09 PM, deep wrote:   
   >>> On Sun, 13 Jul 2014 13:59:57 -0500, RD Sandman   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Baxter  wrote in   
   >>>> news:lpui40$55h$1@speranza.aioe.org:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> RD Sandman  wrote in   
   >>>>> news:XnsA36959D7431A5Hopewell@216.196.97.131:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Baxter  wrote in news:lps1lr$jq3$1   
   >>>>>> @speranza.aioe.org:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Right-wingers especially are calling for much more restrictive   
   >>>>>>> immigration laws for the US - are you a hypocrite?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Actually, they are calling for less restrictive immigration laws with   
   >>>>>> more legal immigrants allowed in a timely manner.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> 'Cept they've completely refused to even talk about Immigration Reform   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Because they want the border closed first.  Remember the axiom, "If come   
   >>>> into your kitchen and see it flooded with running water, before you go   
   >>>> buy a mop, turn off the fucking water!"   
   >>>   
   >>> Conservatives keep whining about "closing the border" but never have   
   >>> any suggestions or willingness to fund possible solutions.   You just   
   >>> don't throw up a 2000 mile long wall for free.   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> What else they are   
   >>>>>> calling for is a restriction on *illegal* immigration ...no open   
   >>>>>> border.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> First, the border is NOT open - and even with the current influx   
   >>>>> "illegal immigration" is substantially down from several years ago.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> No, it isn't.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Second, those protestors are not discriminating between "legal" and   
   >>>>> "illegal" immigrants - they're protesting ALL.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Actually, no, they aren't.  Some are, many are not.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> It is like, if you find your kitchen flooded with running water,   
   >>>>>> before you run to get a mop, turn off the fucking water.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> In this case the Repugs are refusing to let us anywhere near the water   
   >>>>> valve.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Absolutely not true.  They will assist you to the water valve, where   
   >>>> their resistance is is on what comes next after the water is turned off.   
   >>>>   
   >>> The conservatives blindly resist ANY AND ALL solutions.   They don't   
   >>> want a solution while a Democrat is President.   
   >>>   
   >>>>> Also, is the current border issue one of immigration or of refugees?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Both.  The refugees are coming due to misconceptions of our immigration   
   >>>> policies.  They have been told in many cases that once they get their   
   >>>> feet on US soil, they are home free like the Cubans were.  So when   
   >>>> children (and others) come in and they overwhelm the process, they get   
   >>>> sent to "relatives" or some distant kin already here, legal or not, and   
   >>>> are told to report to authorities in 15 - 20 days, just how many do you   
   >>>> think actually show up?   
   >>>   
   >>> You prefer sprawling refugee camps all along the Mexican border?   
   >>>   
   >> Maybe Texas should send the Texas National Guard 45 miles into Mexico to   
   >> control that since the Federal border guard has pulled 45 miles north of   
   >> the border....  That way there will be a 90 mile buffer zone that TEXAS   
   >> will own and manage as their States free Territory and special zone   
   >> where Texas allows HOMESTEADING of the land.   
   >>   
   >> Like Israel and the Gaza strip where they took it and they use it as a   
   >> buffer zone, where State Militia run security.   
   >   
   > I like that idea. Since Mexico is not lifting a finger to stem the   
   > tide of illegals, it's now a matter of our national security to clear   
   > the buffer zone deep into Mexico and protect lives by preventing   
   > anyone from crossing that dangerous desert.   
   >   
   > Think of the children.   
      
      
   Bring 10,000 troops from South Korea at the border and 10,000 from   
   Europe and all the people that Obama just handed Pink Slips to and send   
   them all to the border with orders to create the buffer Zone, and see   
   how long Mexico allows this to continue.   
      
   Then once they are here have them start building Military bases and   
   drone systems on the border and use missiles to strike the terrorist who   
   are posing as Drug Cartel members.   Obama can use his drones because   
   Cartel people are terrorists that are undermining America and   
   terrorizing the Border areas. Their political goals are NOW evident....   
   they are creating political and social instability on the border and   
   doing it for Geopolitical and nationalistic economic gains.   
      
   If it works for the Muslims it will work just as well on the on the   
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