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   From: Dev@null.net   
      
   On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:43:45 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 8/3/2014 2:26 PM, Baxter wrote:   
   >> BeamMeUpScotty > ALIENS@NASA.GOV.nebulax.com> wrote in news:u3vDv.153808$pu5.55694   
   >> @fx27.iad:   
   >>   
   >>> On 8/3/2014 2:11 PM, Baxter wrote:   
   >>>> RD Sandman  wrote in   
   >>>> news:XnsA37E4C5F481B3Hopewell@216.166.97.131:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I am very pro immigrant....after all, we are a nation of immigrants.   
   >>>>> The difference is that most of us got here legally by following   
   >>>>> immigration laws set up by the government.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Bullshit!  For over half of our history as a Nation there were NO   
   >>>> immigration laws. And even in recent history, many immigrants came   
   >>>> uninvited:  the Vietamese, the Cubans, etc.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You're lying when you claim to be "pro immigrant".   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Since when is a child an "immigrant"   
   >>>   
   >>> They can't enter into a legal contract, they need a parent or guardian   
   >>> to do that.   
   >>>   
   >> Then you admit they're refugees (yes, children can be refugees.)   
   >>   
   >   
   >I said immigrant....  They are illegal aliens.   
      
   No they are not, they are refugees   
      
   >Just people that are NOT supposed to be here.   
      
   That's for the immigration judge to decide not slavering racist   
   buffoons.   
      
   >They have yet to fill out papers and be accepted for entry.   
      
   Being arraigned for hearing comes before the 16 page form.   
      
      
   >No one has proven these kids are refugees, tell us what they are fleeing   
   >and why they need to be here more than they should be at home with their   
   >parents?   
      
   That's what the judge will ask.   
      
   >Democrats sent "Elian Gonzalez" home to communist Cuba....  that was a   
   >precedence.  These kids deserve the same. Send them home to their parents.   
      
   >Elian Gonzalez was escaping Violence from the Cuban Government and   
   >Democrats still sent him back to that violence.   
      
   Nonsense.   
      
   The U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) initially placed   
   González with paternal relatives in Miami, who sought to keep him in   
   the United States against his father's demands that González be   
   returned to Cuba.   
      
   A federal district court's ruling that only González's father, and not   
   his extended relatives, could petition for asylum on the boy's behalf   
   was upheld by the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals.   
      
   After the U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear the case, federal agents   
   seized González from his relatives and returned him to Cuba in June   
   2000.   
      
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