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   From: ingilt@yahoo.co.uk   
      
   On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 17:21:40 -0700, Wayne wrote:   
      
   > "Alex W."  wrote in message   
   > news:1mhrz4oerenz8.1hmrfvu6y122n$.dlg@40tude.net...   
   >   
   > On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 10:18:44 -0700, Wayne wrote:   
   >   
   >> "David J. Hughes"  wrote in message   
   >> news:w2PVv.315284$y33.307835@fx28.iad...   
   >>   
   >> On 9/27/2014 10:41 AM, Wayne wrote:   
   >   
   >   
   >>> # To restrict a person's rights by virtue of their anatomy is as   
   >>> primitive   
   >>> # and indefensible as restricting their rights by virtue of their   
   >>> religion   
   >>> # or skin colour.   
   >>>   
   >>> Funny you mention religion.  You know damned well that same sex   
   >>> "marriage" is a direct attack on religious beliefs.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> # How do you figure that?   
   >> # As along as Bob and Bill, or Jane and Amy, aren't married in your   
   >> # church, how does that affect or harm you, your church or your beliefs?   
   >>   
   >> It equates homosexuality with hetero marriage.  Some churches object to   
   >> that.   
   >   
   > # As long as these couples do not insist on getting married in   
   > # those churches, why should they be bothered?   
   >   
   > Do you really think that homosexual activists would stand for churches to   
   > NOT perform homosexual marriages.   
   >   
   > The goal is to force all wedding planners, photographers, bakers, churches,   
   > etc. to accept homosexuality.  It is NOT about rights.   
      
   Bakers and wedding planners are commercial enterprises.   
   They are not allowed to discriminate, and rightly so.  The   
   baker who refuses to do the cake for a mixed-race couple   
   ends up in court, as does the photographer who won't do   
   Jewish weddings or take pictures of a disabled couple on   
   their happiest day.   
      
   Churches are not commercial enterprises.  They can and do   
   refuse gays.  That is their right.  Or they can -- and do --   
   look at scripture again, pray a lot and come to the decision   
   that their congregation will accept and embrace gays and   
   Lesbians in the spirit of christ's love.   
      
      
      
      
   >   
   > Universal legal unions without the government ever using the word marriage   
   > is the only fair way for all.   
      
   The only fair way?  Only if states and federal government   
   establish perfect equality in all rights and benefits for   
   both institutions.  As matters stand, that is not the case   
   and not likely to come about any time soon -- mostly because   
   of the opposition from the gay-haters.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)