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|    Alex W. to Tom McDonald    |
|    Re: Louisiana Court Overturns Gay Marria    |
|    02 Oct 14 12:34:20    |
      XPost: alt.law-enforcement, alt.atheism, talk.politics.guns       XPost: alt.survival       From: ingilt@yahoo.co.uk              On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 16:06:58 -0500, Tom McDonald wrote:                     > Marriage is a cultural construct. I think the confusion, other than that       > resulting from religious beliefs, may come from the fact that babies are       > born to one woman, and the sperm donor per kid is one man. Even if the       > woman had more than one sex partner at the critical time, the child will       > be the result (except in the most unusual cases) of one man's sperm       > winning the race to the egg. Witness the observation that kids generally       > look something like each of their parents.       >       > When marriage is decoupled from procreation (as it is for all but the       > most fanatical, literalist, legalist religionist in the cases of the       > elderly and otherwise infertile marrying, as well as those who are       > childless by choice), then there is no logical barrier to any folks       > marrying. Although some groupings would seem to be both unwieldy and       > prone to internal strife.              While I am absolutely in favour of removing all barriers to       any type of consensual marital arrangement as a matter of       principle, I am not entirely certain about your assertion       that there are no logical barriers.              Social stability would be one realistic concern: unless a       very great deal of work goes into laying the groundwork and       all parties concerned know themseves and each other very       well indeed, polygamous arrangements would seem to me to be       potentially more unstable and at risk of fracture.              In addition, polygamy by its very nature reduces the pool of       available candidates for those who remain unmarried. This       most definitely creates social unrest, as can be seen in       China and India today where (for reasons of sex-selective       abortion) a surplus of unmarried and effectively unmarriable       men are causing serious social problems.              Another aspect: procreation does remain an issue. It is       entirely reasonable and rational and indeed a biological       imperative for a man to see his genes passed on. Any       multi-spouse arrangement will have to allow for this, and       the stresses this causes. This pressure is exacerbated by       the reduced birthrate both in the West and anywhere with       rising wealth rates: it means a man does not get as many       chances at procreation as he used to. Following on, this       also means that the upbringing of offspring and its cost       becomes a major factor -- who has a say, and who pays? In       rational terms, that would also be a disincentive for me       personally to engage in such a setup.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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