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From: fmhlaw@comcast.net
On 10/2/2014 4:00 PM, Scout wrote:
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> "Just Wondering" wrote in message
> news:542d1635$0$28769$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net...
>> On 10/1/2014 6:53 PM, Scout wrote:
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>>>
>>> "Just Wondering" wrote in message
>>> news:542c9eef$0$16363$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net...
>>>> On 10/1/2014 6:31 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Just Wondering" wrote in message
>>>>> news:542c8b40$0$4797$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net...
>>>>>> On 10/1/2014 2:53 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
>>>>>>> Just Wondering wrote in news:542c5f8d$0$1917
>>>>>>> $882e7ee2@usenet-news.net:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/1/2014 11:01 AM, RD Sandman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:XnsA3B8D3316F71Anoemailattnet@216.196.121.131:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just Wondering wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:542b5c88$0$4889$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/30/2014 6:41 PM, Wayne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Free Lunch" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:lkim2a5da62hdaq7rrjt4p8b4leuhd4jrl@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 16:50:00 -0700, "Wayne"
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Free Lunch" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:8scm2ah87nmqg5smgf28h35ur47qkf5n11@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 18:36:48 -0400, WangoTango
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <5426724f$0$27326$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fmhlaw@comcast.net says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/26/2014 10:27 PM, WangoTango wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <54234070$0$1917$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fmhlaw@comcast.net says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/24/2014 3:59 PM, WangoTango wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mygarbagecan@verizon.net says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "David J. Hughes" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:HdzUv.240259$JH1.29846@fx08.iad...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/23/2014 12:57 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/23/2014 11:27 AM, Lee wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> La. state judge: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sept 22 2014
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louisiana's ban on same-sex marriage is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unconstitutional, in part because it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> violates equal protection rights, a state
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> judge ruled Monday.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Protection of what right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # Fourteenth Amendment, section one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # "1. All persons born or naturalized in the United
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> States,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and subject to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United
>>>>>>> States
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # State wherein they reside. No State shall make or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enforce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> law
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # shall abridge the privileges or immunities of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizens of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the United
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # States; nor shall any State deprive any person of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> life,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberty, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # property, without due process of law; nor deny to any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person within its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # Contract laws, of which marriage laws are a subset,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not # discriminate on anything other than the ability to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consent or enter into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # a valid contract.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice cite. Too bad it isn't relevant except in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strange
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minds >>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proggies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assume that man A has the right to marry a woman, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> man B
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marry a woman.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In what weird world of logic does that mean that man A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right to marry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> man B?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because there is nothing stopping them from any other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> type of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contractual agreement, duh.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure there is. Many types of contracts are void on public
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policy grounds.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ah, you got a hair splitter for Christmas, how nice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about they are afforded equal protection under the law.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They already are. They always have been. A person's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marry is not affected by sexual orientation. A man can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marry a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> woman, and a woman marry a man, regardless of whether
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both of them is heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, or any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ___sexual you care to name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> # It's routine for the bigots to make that claim.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So "bigot" equals someone who doesn't agree with you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> # No. Bigot is someone who makes silly claims to justify their
>>>>>>>>>>>> refusal to # treat others the way they are treated under the
>>>>>>>>>>>> law.
>>>>>>>>>>>> fmhlaw@comcast.net # is one such bigot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, so someone who disagrees with you is a bigot and makes
>>>>>>>>>>>> silly
>>>>>>>>>>>> claims?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It sounds like in his book, someone who points out a virtually
>>>>>>>>>>> universal historical truth as old as the institution of marriage
>>>>>>>>>>> itself, that contradicts what in his mind is "how things should
>>>>>>>>>>> be",
>>>>>>>>>>> is a bigot making silly claims.
>>>>>>>>>> What is that "historical truth"?
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