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   Message 23,947 of 25,344   
   Scout to Just Wondering   
   Re: Louisiana Court Overturns Gay Marria   
   02 Oct 14 21:46:35   
   
   XPost: alt.law-enforcement, alt.atheism, talk.politics.guns   
   XPost: alt.survival   
   From: me4guns@centurylink.removeme.this2.nospam.net   
      
   "Just Wondering"  wrote in message   
   news:542df985$0$3669$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net...   
   > On 10/2/2014 4:07 PM, Scout wrote:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> "Just Wondering"  wrote in message   
   >> news:542d176f$0$27300$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net...   
   >>> On 10/1/2014 7:16 PM, Free Lunch wrote:   
   >>>> On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 17:16:20 -0600, Just Wondering    
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 10/1/2014 2:53 PM, RD Sandman wrote:   
   >>>>>> Just Wondering  wrote in news:542c5f8d$0$1917   
   >>>>>> $882e7ee2@usenet-news.net:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On 10/1/2014 11:01 AM, RD Sandman wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> Mitchell Holman  wrote in   
   >>>>>>>> news:XnsA3B8D3316F71Anoemailattnet@216.196.121.131:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Just Wondering  wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>> news:542b5c88$0$4889$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 9/30/2014 6:41 PM, Wayne wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> "Free Lunch"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>> news:lkim2a5da62hdaq7rrjt4p8b4leuhd4jrl@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 16:50:00 -0700, "Wayne"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> "Free Lunch"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> news:8scm2ah87nmqg5smgf28h35ur47qkf5n11@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 18:36:48 -0400, WangoTango   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <5426724f$0$27326$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net>,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> fmhlaw@comcast.net says...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/26/2014 10:27 PM, WangoTango wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <54234070$0$1917$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net>,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fmhlaw@comcast.net says...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/24/2014 3:59 PM, WangoTango wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article ,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mygarbagecan@verizon.net says...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "David J. Hughes"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:HdzUv.240259$JH1.29846@fx08.iad...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/23/2014 12:57 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/23/2014 11:27 AM, Lee wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> La. state judge: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sept 22 2014   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louisiana's ban on same-sex marriage is   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unconstitutional, in part because it   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> violates equal protection rights, a state   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> judge ruled Monday.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Protection of what right?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # Fourteenth Amendment, section one   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # "1. All persons born or naturalized in the United   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> States,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and subject to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United   
   >>>>>> States   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>> of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # State wherein they reside. No State shall make or   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enforce   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> law   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # shall abridge the privileges or immunities of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizens of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the United   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberty, or   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # property, without due process of law; nor deny to any   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person within its   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # Contract laws, of which marriage laws are a subset,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not # discriminate on anything other than the ability to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consent or enter into   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # a valid contract.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice cite.  Too bad it isn't relevant except in the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strange   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> minds >>>> of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proggies.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assume that man A has the right to marry a woman, and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> man B   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marry a woman.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In what weird world of logic does that mean that man A   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right to marry   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> man B?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because there is nothing stopping them from any other   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> type of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contractual agreement, duh.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure there is.  Many types of contracts are void on public   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policy grounds.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ah, you got a hair splitter for Christmas, how nice.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about they are afforded equal protection under the law.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> They already are.  They always have been.  A person's right   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> marry is not affected by sexual orientation.  A man can   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> marry a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> woman, and a woman marry a man, regardless of whether   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> either or   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> both of them is heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, or any   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> other   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ___sexual you care to name.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> # It's routine for the bigots to make that claim.     
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> So "bigot" equals someone who doesn't agree with you?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> # No. Bigot is someone who makes silly claims to justify their   
   >>>>>>>>>>> refusal to # treat others the way they are treated under the   
   >>>>>>>>>>> law.   
   >>>>>>>>>>> fmhlaw@comcast.net # is one such bigot.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> OK, so someone who disagrees with you is a bigot and makes silly   
   >>>>>>>>>>> claims?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> It sounds like in his book, someone who points out a virtually   
   >>>>>>>>>> universal historical truth as old as the institution of marriage   
   >>>>>>>>>> itself, that contradicts what in his mind is "how things should   
   >>>>>>>>>> be",   
   >>>>>>>>>> is a bigot making silly claims.   
      
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