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From: fmhlaw@comcast.net
On 10/3/2014 7:12 PM, Scout wrote:
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> "Just Wondering" wrote in message
> news:542e5fcd$0$4789$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net...
>> On 10/2/2014 7:46 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Just Wondering" wrote in message
>>> news:542df985$0$3669$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net...
>>>> On 10/2/2014 4:07 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Just Wondering" wrote in message
>>>>> news:542d176f$0$27300$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net...
>>>>>> On 10/1/2014 7:16 PM, Free Lunch wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 17:16:20 -0600, Just Wondering
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/1/2014 2:53 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Just Wondering wrote in news:542c5f8d$0$1917
>>>>>>>>> $882e7ee2@usenet-news.net:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/1/2014 11:01 AM, RD Sandman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>> news:XnsA3B8D3316F71Anoemailattnet@216.196.121.131:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just Wondering wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:542b5c88$0$4889$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/30/2014 6:41 PM, Wayne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Free Lunch" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:lkim2a5da62hdaq7rrjt4p8b4leuhd4jrl@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 16:50:00 -0700, "Wayne"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Free Lunch" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:8scm2ah87nmqg5smgf28h35ur47qkf5n11@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 18:36:48 -0400, WangoTango
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <5426724f$0$27326$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fmhlaw@comcast.net says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/26/2014 10:27 PM, WangoTango wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <54234070$0$1917$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fmhlaw@comcast.net says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/24/2014 3:59 PM, WangoTango wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mygarbagecan@verizon.net says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "David J. Hughes" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:HdzUv.240259$JH1.29846@fx08.iad...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/23/2014 12:57 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/23/2014 11:27 AM, Lee wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> La. state judge: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sept 22 2014
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louisiana's ban on same-sex marriage is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unconstitutional, in part because it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> violates equal protection rights, a state
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> judge ruled Monday.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Protection of what right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # Fourteenth Amendment, section one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # "1. All persons born or naturalized in the United
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> States,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and subject to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United
>>>>>>>>> States
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # State wherein they reside. No State shall make or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enforce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> law
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # shall abridge the privileges or immunities of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizens of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the United
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # States; nor shall any State deprive any person of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> life,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberty, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # property, without due process of law; nor deny to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person within its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # Contract laws, of which marriage laws are a subset,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not # discriminate on anything other than the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ability to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consent or enter into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # a valid contract.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice cite. Too bad it isn't relevant except in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strange
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minds >>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proggies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assume that man A has the right to marry a woman, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> man B
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marry a woman.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In what weird world of logic does that mean that man A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right to marry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> man B?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because there is nothing stopping them from any other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> type of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contractual agreement, duh.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure there is. Many types of contracts are void on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policy grounds.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ah, you got a hair splitter for Christmas, how nice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about they are afforded equal protection under the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> law.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They already are. They always have been. A person's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marry is not affected by sexual orientation. A man can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marry a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> woman, and a woman marry a man, regardless of whether
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both of them is heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, or any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ___sexual you care to name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # It's routine for the bigots to make that claim.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So "bigot" equals someone who doesn't agree with you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # No. Bigot is someone who makes silly claims to justify
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusal to # treat others the way they are treated under the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> law.
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