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   BeamMeUpScotty to Ed Huntress   
   Re: They might at least read the laws be   
   29 Oct 14 14:24:15   
   
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   On 10/29/2014 12:43 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:   
   > On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:25:57 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty   
   >    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 10/29/2014 12:02 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:   
   >>> On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:36:59 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty   
   >>>    
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 10/29/2014 10:44 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:   
   >>>>> On 10/28/2014 10:50 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>    We have 2 issues here in Arkansas that have the populace up in arms .   
   >>>>>> There's an attempt to take local control away by making all counties   
   here   
   >>>>>> "wet" , as in liquor sales . Liquor sales is just a front to move more   
   >>>>>> power   
   >>>>>> to the state level . Another is presented as a "term limit" bill , but   
   >>>>>> what   
   >>>>>> it really does is let the pols stay in office longer by extending the   
   >>>>>> current term limits to about double what they are now . I'll be voting   
   >>>>>> NO on   
   >>>>>> both .   
   >>>>>>    We've got some hotly contested races here too , and a LOT of mud is   
   >>>>>> being   
   >>>>>> slung . I sure wish we had some really strong independent candidates ...   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I strongly believe that term limits on every office down to dog catcher   
   >>>>> would go a long way to cure this country...   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> And to go with that a *SUNSET CLAUSE* amendment to the constitution that   
   >>>> sunsets all laws after 7 years so that any law is required to get a   
   >>>> separate roll call vote every 7 years to reconfirm it as an active law.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> If they can't keep up with it then we have too many laws for the   
   >>>> citizens to keep up with and we need some of them to become dead laws.   
   >>>   
   >>> That idea always has popular appeal, but the upshot would be that   
   >>> businesses wouldn't be able to operate, never knowing if a particular   
   >>> law was going to pass again.   
   >>>   
   >>> One example: Agricultural property is valued based on the net return   
   >>> that can be expected from it. If you have some kind of loan guarentee   
   >>> (there are many) that stabilizes farm investments, and if you got a   
   >>> "zero subsidies" Congress that didn't renew it, the value of those   
   >>> properties could collapse to a fraction of their previous value. As   
   >>> for what kind of fools would do such a thing, think "Tea Party   
   >>> Jackass" party.   
   >>>   
   >>> That would mean that no bank would give a completely private,   
   >>> *unsubsidized* loan to a farmer, because the value of his collateral   
   >>> would be unknown.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> That would make it a risk....  and then rather than taxpayers taking a   
   >> risk it would be farmers?  And why buy land if you see a law passed that   
   >> might cause your investment to drop to zero.   
   >   
   > It wouldn't have to drop to zero. I haven't seen the figures for   
   > years, but IIRC, a 20% drop in ag. land values would bankrupt half the   
   > farmers in America.   
      
      
   Bankrupting the coal miners and coal industry is perfectly acceptable to   
   Liberals and Democrats so this is just as acceptable.   
      
   You have to heat your home and run the power plants just as you say we   
   have to afford food. Obama says "the cost of energy will necessarily   
   skyrocket" and so why is it any different from the cost of food   
   necessarily skyrocketing?   Please explain that to me.   
      
    I see no reason a farmers livelihood is any more important than a coal   
   miners livelihood.   
      
   If you voted for Obama you voted to destroy industries and the farming   
   industry is no better than Health care or coal or oil or any other that   
   Obama and his Liberals are targeting/extorting and destroying.   
      
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HlTxGHn4sH4   
   Obama personally tells you what Cap & Trade Socialism does to prices....   
      
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   #63 - ObamaCare is like Ebola, you have to get it before you know how   
   bad it really is.   
      
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