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|    BeamMeUpScotty to All    |
|    Re: In Which Society Would You Rather Li    |
|    31 Oct 14 23:33:09    |
      IRS.FBI.NSA.CIA.EPA.ObamaCare.gov       XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.law-enforcement, alt.prisons       XPost: alt.revisionism, alt.atheism, alt.conspiracy       XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.true-crime, talk.politics.guns       XPost: misc.survivalism, soc.culture.usa, alt.survival       From: I-WAS-JUST-GANG-PROBED-BY-THE-ObamaRegime-SPY-NETWORK@IRS.       BI.NSA.CIA.EPA.ObamaCare.gov              On 10/31/2014 11:04 PM, wy wrote:       > On Friday, October 31, 2014 10:34:04 PM UTC-4, Vandar wrote:       >> On 10/31/2014 9:55 PM, wy wrote:       >>> On Friday, October 31, 2014 7:18:23 AM UTC-4, Vandar wrote:       >>>> On 10/30/2014 11:32 PM, wy wrote:       >>>>> On Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:46:33 PM UTC-4, Vandar wrote:       >>>>>> On 10/30/2014 10:15 PM, wy wrote:       >>>>>>> On Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:40:26 PM UTC-4, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:       >>>>>>>> On 10/30/2014 9:09 PM, wy wrote:       >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 30, 2014 8:54:43 PM UTC-4, Vandar wrote:       >>>>>>>>>> On 10/30/2014 8:50 PM, wy wrote:       >>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 30, 2014 8:28:37 PM UTC-4, Vandar wrote:       >>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/30/2014 12:08 PM, wy wrote:       >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:01:39 PM UTC-4, Vandar wrote:       >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/30/2014 10:01 AM, wy wrote:       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:43:07 AM UTC-4, Reaper G wrote:       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 2:20:29 PM UTC-7, wy wrote:       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a very simple question. The scenario is this:       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The world is split into two halves: one is run by the       secular half, in which all religion is excluded, and the other is run by the       religious half, in which any secularism that may exist is subordinate to       religious doctrine.       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which half would you live in?       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know, call me crazy, but I pick the secular half.       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exclusion is exclusion, it stinks either way. Besides, in       your society, people will still fight each other over whose version of atheism       is better. Who needs Catholics vs. Protestants or Sunnis vs. Shiites, when you       can have Dawkinsians        vs. Gouldites?       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Atheism is not a religion, stupid.       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is a belief system.       >>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no system to it. There are no rules, there is no book       to abide by, there are no traditions to follow, there are no establishments in       which to congregate as a whole on any regular or semi-regular or even rare       basis, there is no        spiritual or physical leader that all turn to and follow or honor. Each       atheist has their own definition and parameters of what they believe or don't       believe in. Atheism has none of the trappings that religions do, which are       systems as defined by        those trappings.       >>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>> There is at least one rule.       >>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> Oh, he's playing the guessing game again. There are no rules.        And no, not believing in God is not a rule.       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> Yeah, it is.       >>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>> No. Because rules imply a system. There is no system to atheism.        Ergo, there are no rules.       >>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>> What are the rules to Theism?       >>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>> Atheism is any of the types of religion that believes there is NO God.       >>>>>>>       >>>>>>>       >>>>>>> What do you mean "any type of religion that believes there is NO       God"? Atheism is not a religion, so there can't be "any type of religion"       within it, stupid.              Tao is a religion that believes there can be no God it would destroy the       TAO to have a deity.       That's one and there are others. Like Islam believes in a God and is       Theism, The TAO Believes there can be no God and is Atheism.              Each has to believe that Gods do or don't exist, neither can prove their       belief so they take it on faith. Both are connected to God and either       way their only difference is the idols they worship.              Belief and faith are the cornerstones of religion.              They are all Religions or rather types of religions.                     --        *Rumination*       #66 - To a hammer... everything looks like a nail. And to the       government, everything looks like a way to limit your freedoms.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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