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   From: I-WAS-JUST-GANG-PROBED-BY-THE-ObamaRegime-SPY-NETWORK@IRS.   
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   On 11/24/2014 12:27 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:   
   > On 11/24/2014 9:24 AM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:   
   >> On 11/24/2014 12:07 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:   
   >>> On 11/24/2014 9:05 AM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:   
   >>>> On 11/24/2014 10:39 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:   
   >>>>> On 11/24/2014 6:01 AM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 11/23/2014 4:37 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 11/23/2014 12:30 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 11/22/2014 6:51 PM, Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:29:54 -0500, BeamMeUpScotty   
   >>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 11/22/2014 8:13 AM, wien9alsergrund@gmail.com wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> ..... As I keep repeating, clergy should not meddle in   
   >>>>>>>>>>> politics if   
   >>>>>>>>>>> they don't want politicians to meddle in religion.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> The first amendment doesn't ban clergy from doing   
   >>>>>>>>>> anything....  it   
   >>>>>>>>>> bans   
   >>>>>>>>>> *CONGRESS* from making any laws.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Except congress CAN make laws that apply and are enforced   
   >>>>>>>>> against a   
   >>>>>>>>> LARGE variety of things related to speech, you moron   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Clergy CAN advocate in sermons----but CAN lose tax exempt status   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Congress cannot bar them from speaking---they CAN bar them from   
   >>>>>>>>> speaking without being taxed   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> SEE?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Feel better now?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> They tax people to stop smoking or to force them to buy ObamaCare   
   >>>>>>>> insurance so taxing people to force Religion   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Isn't happening.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Except as coercion and that is also NOT constitutional when it   
   >>>>>> comes to   
   >>>>>> government passing laws on religion,   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> There is no taxation on people "to force religion."  This is what I   
   >>>>> mean   
   >>>>> about you being too stupid and too unhinged for this.  You just start   
   >>>>> stringing words together thinking you're sounding smart, but they   
   >>>>> always   
   >>>>> give you away as a complete fucking moron.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> ["There is no taxation on people "to force religion.""]   
   >>>>   
   >>>> An example is ObamaCare that is a tax and   
   >>>   
   >>> It is not a tax "to force religion."  That was just some bit of bullshit   
   >>> that sounded good to your semi-literate, poorly educated, lunatic-fringe   
   >>> ears, but it's bullshit.   
   >>   
   >> And yet it forced people to pay for things for other people that's   
   >> against the religious tenets and beliefs of the people paying that tax.   
   >   
   > Not the issue.  You said it was a tax "to force religion."  That doesn't   
   > even mean anything.  It's just the rabid raving of a lunatic-fringer.   
   > You really are too stupid for this.   
   >   
   >   
      
   Yes it forced religion to change their tenets or violate those tenets   
   that they have always had. It forced people to do what other religions   
    and secular people do that do think abortion and contraceptives are   
   acceptable to their God or religion or lack of that.   
      
   If a lack of commerce can be taxed like ObamaCare.  Then a lack of   
   Religion is equal to a religion.  That means that secular people are the   
   same as a religion so when it comes to favoring their religion,   
   Government can't establish secularism as the official religion of the   
   United States or the constitution any more than Christianity or Islam.   
   The same for prohibiting the religions or secularism.  They can't force   
   it on you NOR can they prohibit your exercising of it. SO if it's   
   against your secularism to pray you don't have to and no law can force   
   you even a tax law that says you must pray 5 times a day to Allah or pay   
   a penalty.  Or a tax law that says you must get an abortion or pay for   
   someone else to get one or for their birth control in any law that   
   Liberals call ObamaCare.  The end game is for Liberals to mandate   
   abortions, first they use the courts to allow it then they make you pay   
   for it for others and soon they'll be like the Chinese and try to   
   force/coerce people to do it after one baby.  Remember that Liberals lie   
   and they "Gruber" you and think you're too stupid to breath without   
   those intelligent Liberals telling you how to do it.   
      
      
   "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or   
   prohibiting the free exercise thereof; "   
      
   We have religious freedoms and we have sexual and gender and racial   
   rights and there's the human rights of the baby to consider.   
      
   The baby may be black or female, the woman and man may have sexual   
   rights as gays do AND THE RELIGION HAS THE RIGHT TO FOLLOW IT'S OWN   
   TEACHINGS.   
      
   The constitution didn't place secular or any Atheist religions rights   
   above the rights of any other Theist religions RIGHTS.   
      
      
      
      
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