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   BeamMeUpScotty to Rudy Canoza   
   Re: "Exercise Of Religious Freedom"? >>>   
   24 Nov 14 14:14:50   
   
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   On 11/24/2014 1:31 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:   
   > On 11/24/2014 9:49 AM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:   
   >> On 11/24/2014 12:27 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:   
   >>> On 11/24/2014 9:24 AM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:   
   >>>> On 11/24/2014 12:07 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:   
   >>>>> On 11/24/2014 9:05 AM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 11/24/2014 10:39 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 11/24/2014 6:01 AM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 11/23/2014 4:37 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 11/23/2014 12:30 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 11/22/2014 6:51 PM, Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:29:54 -0500, BeamMeUpScotty   
   >>>>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/22/2014 8:13 AM, wien9alsergrund@gmail.com wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> ..... As I keep repeating, clergy should not meddle in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> politics if   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> they don't want politicians to meddle in religion.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> The first amendment doesn't ban clergy from doing   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> anything....  it   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> bans   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> *CONGRESS* from making any laws.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Except congress CAN make laws that apply and are enforced   
   >>>>>>>>>>> against a   
   >>>>>>>>>>> LARGE variety of things related to speech, you moron   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Clergy CAN advocate in sermons----but CAN lose tax exempt status   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Congress cannot bar them from speaking---they CAN bar them from   
   >>>>>>>>>>> speaking without being taxed   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> SEE?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Feel better now?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> They tax people to stop smoking or to force them to buy ObamaCare   
   >>>>>>>>>> insurance so taxing people to force Religion   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Isn't happening.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Except as coercion and that is also NOT constitutional when it   
   >>>>>>>> comes to   
   >>>>>>>> government passing laws on religion,   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> There is no taxation on people "to force religion."  This is what I   
   >>>>>>> mean   
   >>>>>>> about you being too stupid and too unhinged for this.  You just   
   >>>>>>> start   
   >>>>>>> stringing words together thinking you're sounding smart, but they   
   >>>>>>> always   
   >>>>>>> give you away as a complete fucking moron.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> ["There is no taxation on people "to force religion.""]   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> An example is ObamaCare that is a tax and   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It is not a tax "to force religion."  That was just some bit of   
   >>>>> bullshit   
   >>>>> that sounded good to your semi-literate, poorly educated,   
   >>>>> lunatic-fringe   
   >>>>> ears, but it's bullshit.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> And yet it forced people to pay for things for other people that's   
   >>>> against the religious tenets and beliefs of the people paying that tax.   
   >>>   
   >>> Not the issue.  You said it was a tax "to force religion."  That doesn't   
   >>> even mean anything.  It's just the rabid raving of a lunatic-fringer.   
   >>> You really are too stupid for this.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Yes it forced religion to change their tenets or violate those tenets   
   >> that they have always had.   
   >   
   > That's not what you were saying, but it's *still* wrong.  It didn't   
   > "force religion" to do anything.  You wrote,   
   >   
   >    so taxing people to force Religion [sic] can be done to coerce   
   >    people into a National religion   
   >   
   > No, there is no attempt to "coerce people into a national religion."   
      
   Sure there is....   
      
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