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|    BeamMeUpScotty to All    |
|    Ignoring that distinction would undermin    |
|    25 Jan 15 15:47:34    |
      IRS.FBI.NSA.CIA.EPA.ObamaCare.gov       XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.law-enforcement, alt.prisons       XPost: alt.revisionism, alt.atheism, alt.conspiracy       XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.true-crime, alt.politics.guns       XPost: misc.survivalism, soc.culture.usa, alt.survival       From: I-WAS-JUST-GANG-PROBED-BY-THE-ObamaRegime-SPY-NETWORK@IRS.       BI.NSA.CIA.EPA.ObamaCare.gov              Congress already possesses expansive power to regulate what people do.       Upholding the Affordable Care Act under the Commerce Clause would give       Congress the same license to regulate what people do not do                     [""""""""The business about "new and potentially vast" authority is a       fig leaf. This is a substantial rollback of Congress' regulatory powers,       and the chief justice knows it. It is what Roberts has been pursuing       ever since he signed up with the Federalist Society. In 2005, Sen.       Barack Obama spoke in opposition to Roberts' nomination, saying he did       not trust his political philosophy on tough questions such as "whether       the Commerce Clause empowers Congress to speak on those issues of broad       national concern that may be only tangentially related to what is easily       defined as interstate commerce." Today, Roberts did what Obama predicted       he would do.              Roberts' genius was in pushing this health care decision through without       attaching it to the coattails of an ugly, narrow partisan victory. Obama       wins on policy, this time. And Roberts rewrites Congress' power to       regulate, opening the door for countless future challenges. In the long       term, supporters of curtailing the federal government should be glad to       have made that trade."""""""""]                     When there is NO commerce the government also can't regulate       race or gender or any other aspects of people that are NOT your customer       and NOT actually buying anything. Window shopping is NOT commerce.              That destroys the 1964 civil rights based laws that regulate who is able       to shop or join a golf resort or any other aspect of NON commerce of       people NOT invited to do business(that's non commerce)and that would       include people NOT invited to work for you that are no longer protected       by quotas set by the government under the commerce clause.....                      In short the government can't order you to allow people into your store       or business to shop or work and then presume to regulate their gender or       race because it's suddenly commerce. The government had no power to       order you by law to allow anyone entry to begin with under the commerce law.              *The ObamaCare ruling changed/upheld the commerce laws* so that NOW no       law under commerce can regulate lack of commerce or NON commerce. That       ended the governments mistaken ability to regulate anyone NOT invited by       you to actually engage in commerce. Fair housing act for instance? Or       the Community Reinvestment Act?              It was always true but no one challenged it until ObamaCare. Now with       ObamaCare and Judge Roberts decision...                     -Justice Roberts-       [""""""Construing the Commerce Clause to permit Congress to regulate       individuals precisely because they are doing nothing would open a new       and potentially vast domain to congressional authority. Congress already       possesses expansive power to regulate what people do. Upholding the       Affordable Care Act under the Commerce Clause would give Congress the       same *license to regulate what people do not do* . The Framers knew the       difference between doing something and doing nothing. They gave Congress       the power to regulate commerce, *not to compel it* . Ignoring that       distinction would undermine the principle that *the* *Federal*       *Government* *is a government of limited and enumerated powers* . The       individual mandate thus cannot be sustained under Congress’s power to       “regulate Commerce.”"""""""]        -Justice Roberts-                     The ObamaCare ruling says that the government can't force you to enter       into commerce, which means you can't be force to engage into commerce       with anyone no matter their race or gender or whether they are gay or       not and so you need not hire them or allow them into your business since       the government has no teeth in any law that supported such interference       into your private sector business.              On the other hand the government is still required to treat all people       equally under the laws. So it doesn't change that government is forced       to allow all people to enter government operated institutions and       services. It makes our nation more dynamic and will create greater       opportunity without so much government intrusion.              The Democrats should have tried to get ObamaCare and that ruling tossed       out while they could, in order to save their favorite power of       regulating you doing NOTHING because under the commerce clause that's       what Democrats did. Now Democrats gained an ObamaCare tax that will       soon fail and be trimmed but they LOST the power to regulate what people       didn't do. It looks like just another Obama fuck-up that makes Democrats       less powerful.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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