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|    BeamMeUpScotty to Bret Cahill    |
|    Re: Can't Make Up Their Silly Goose Head    |
|    06 Feb 15 15:34:37    |
      IRS.FBI.NSA.CIA.EPA.ObamaCare.gov       XPost: alt.politics.economics, alt.law-enforcement, alt.prisons       XPost: alt.revisionism, alt.atheism, alt.conspiracy       XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.true-crime, alt.politics.guns       XPost: misc.survivalism, soc.culture.usa, alt.survival       From: I-WAS-JUST-GANG-PROBED-BY-THE-ObamaRegime-SPY-NETWORK@IRS.       BI.NSA.CIA.EPA.ObamaCare.gov              On 2/6/2015 3:22 PM, Bret Cahill wrote:       >>>>>>>>>> O'REILLY: Why have a 1.5 million Americans left the marketplace?       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> CAMAROTA: Well, some of them are unemployed. That is some of them       are       >>>>>>>>>> looking but haven't found.       >>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>> If you want full employment, tax land at full rental value.       >>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>> If you want full employment then *QUIT TAXING EMPLOYMENT*       >>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>> If you want full human employment *TAX THE MACHINERY NOT THE HUMANS*       >>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>> Income tax on humans is unconstitutional since the income tax is on       >>>>>>>> "INCOME" and when you "TRADE" your life by the hour for money you       gained       >>>>>>>> nothing you didn't profit, it was an equal or losing trade of time for       >>>>>>>> dollars. Sell a car you bought for $100 for the same amount of $100       and       >>>>>>>> you have no profit and no income from the trade to be taxed, it's the       >>>>>>>> same for human labor.       >>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>> You and your employer decided your time and value is $XX.00 dollars       and       >>>>>>>> so you trade that time for an equal amount, what's worse is your       >>>>>>>> employer can rent you out by subcontracting you for more than he pays       >>>>>>>> you and that proves that you aren't even getting your full value of       what       >>>>>>>> your time is worth. SO if you are working at a loss or for equal or       >>>>>>>> less than your life is worth you can't be making a profit and       therefore       >>>>>>>> it's impossible to have an income from your own labor. That makes the       >>>>>>>> income tax unconstitutional to use to tax human labor. Taxing human       >>>>>>>> labor turns it into slavery where you work 3 or 4 months a year as a       >>>>>>>> slave to the government and your life and time traded for an even       trade       >>>>>>>> is now taken away from you for that 3-4 months.       >>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>> Remember that on April 15th.       >>>>>>       >>>>>> What is the intent of tax? It is to pay for the necessary and proper       >>>>>> operation of government (and necessary and proper being the protection       >>>>>> and securing of rights).       >>>>>>       >>>>>> So, if the intent is to pay, why is it based on income? Does someone       >>>>>> that makes $10/hr. get twice as much value out of government as someone       >>>>>> that makes $5?       >>>>>       >>>>> In a low tax despotism someone making a million / year _is_ getting       infinitely more from gummint than someone making 50K:       >>>>>       >>>>> His life.       >>>>>       >>>>> A "starve everything except the beast" libertarian / despotic gummint       never cuts funding for the police.       >>>>>       >>>>> Low tax despotisms always end up as police states.       >>>>>       >>>>> There is no free lunch on liberty.       >>>>>       >>>>> Freedom ain't free.       >>>>>       >>>>> Taxes are the price of liberty.       >>>>>       >>>>>> Of course not. Tax on income is unjust, unfair, and       >>>>>> unequal.       >>>>>       >>>>> Progressive taxation goes back to ancient Greece and, as Montesquieu       pointed out, "is fair thou not proportionable."       >>>>>       >>>>> The founders read and understood the "celebrated Montesquieu" which is       why he is the most cited authority in the _Federalist_.       >>>>>       >>>>>> Under our form of government, everyone (of accountable age) is equal       >>>>>> under the law, which means that everyone (of accountable age) is subject       >>>>>> to equal costs associated with administering that law.       >>>>>       >>>>> Which is why the rich must pay more in taxes.       >>>>       >>>> If you want to tax progressively then tax for education, the more       >>>> education the higher the rate of tax like a Lottery winner where the       >>>> amount is 2X or 3X or 5X the regular $1.00 ticket or tax rate.       >>>>       >>>> That progressive tax on education would be more fair than a progressive       >>>> structure on income.       >>>>       >>>> After all... it's the well educated that figure ways around their taxes.       >>>> Uneducated rich people just pay their tax.       >>>       >>> If taxing reduces the supply of something why not tax the poor?       >>       >> I have already said that we should tax the poor,       >       > And if they cannot pay, incarcerate them at the expense of the rich.              You do incarcerate the rich like Wesley Snipes.... When they don't have       the money to pay.              >       > Either that or implement the death penalty for not paying taxes and then get       rid of the bodies in crematoria.       >       > . . .       >       >> byE byE Charlie Rangel....       >       > Good to see the nazi bigot come out of the closet.       >       >       Rangel was head of the committee that writes tax code and he failed to       pay his taxes, the irony there is that Rangel would have basically       committed suicide had your "death penalty" been enacted. Rangel would       have put forth the tax that he ignored and had himself put to death.              Since you didn't see the humor in it I expect you didn't understand who       Charlie Rangel is.                     --       Jus Say'n              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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