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   Keeley Crawford to EPA.ObamaCare.gov   
   Re: Economists are baffled about Obama's   
   22 Feb 15 11:44:52   
   
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   From: kcrawford981@gmail.invalid   
      
   In article ,   
    BeamMeUpScotty   
     wrote:   
      
   > On 2/22/2015 1:15 AM, Keeley Crawford wrote:   
   > > In article <2Y4Gw.83017$Oy4.39216@fx17.iad>,   
   > >  BeamMeUpScotty   
   > >   >  EPA.ObamaCare.gov> wrote:   
   > >   
   > >> On 2/21/2015 2:12 PM, Keeley Crawford wrote:   
   > >>> In article ,   
   > >>>  BeamMeUpScotty   
   > >>>   >>>  EPA.ObamaCare.gov> wrote:   
   > >>>   
   > >>>> On 2/20/2015 7:57 PM, Keeley Crawford wrote:   
   > >>>>> In article ,   
   > >>>>>  BeamMeUpScotty   
   > >>>>>   >>>>>  EPA.ObamaCare.gov> wrote:   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>> On 2/20/2015 2:16 PM, Keeley Crawford wrote:   
   > >>>>>>> In article ,   
   > >>>>>>>  BeamMeUpScotty   
   > >>>>>>>   >>>>>>>  A.   
   > >>>>>>>  EPA.ObamaCare.gov> wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>> On 2/19/2015 2:10 PM, Keeley Crawford wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>> In article <3xoFw.2191782$1s.1636401@fx05.iad>,   
   > >>>>>>>>>  BeamMeUpScotty   
   > >>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>>>  CI   
   > >>>>>>>>>  A.   
   > >>>>>>>>>  EPA.ObamaCare.gov> wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>> On 2/18/2015 6:36 PM, davidp@agent.com wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> Economists are baffled about Obama's recovery   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> By Robert J. Samuelson - Jan. 19, 2015   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> The great wage mystery deepens. In economic recoveries, there   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> usually   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> comes a time when strong job gains lead to strong wage gains.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> Businesses must pay more to recruit and retain the workers they   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> need.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> Not this time - or at least not yet.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>> Because there is NO recovery...   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>> NO "green shoots"   
   > >>>>>>>>>> No "summer of recovery"   
   > >>>>>>>>>> No "Jobless recovery"   
   > >>>>>>>>>> No "stocks led recovery"   
   > >>>>>>>>>> No "ObamaCare stimulated Recovery"   
   > >>>>>>>>>> No "Shovel Ready Jobs Recovery"   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>> Or any of the other half dozen recoveries we were told were   
   > >>>>>>>>>> happening....   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>> There is NO recovery....   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>> there must be a recovery, the 1%er's keep getting richer   
   > >>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>> when did they ever stop getting richer?  The rich didn't have a   
   > >>>>>>>> recession. Just as the government didn't have a recession.  The   
   > >>>>>>>> government just stole money from the rest of us. The poor didn't   
   > >>>>>>>> suffer   
   > >>>>>>>> a recession.  In fact the Government increased it's deficits and   
   > >>>>>>>> it's   
   > >>>>>>>> spending and that proves there was NO recession for the government.   
   > >>>>>>>> The   
   > >>>>>>>> rich got richer so there was NO recession for the wealthy.   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> so they must have been stealing the money from the gov't, right?   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> Only if the government was first stealing the money from the middle   
   > >>>>>> class.   
   > >>>>>> And that looks like what was happening, *borrowing the printed* money   
   > >>>>>> was theft and so the entire collapse and TARP and all the bailouts was   
   > >>>>>> paid for by the middle class which is why they have neither moved   
   > >>>>>> forward or recovered since the collapse.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> "the gov't just stole from the rest of us", so you made my point, thank   
   > >>>>> you   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>> Didn't seem like what you meant but if it was then great...   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> Government stole from the middle class and redistributed it to the poor   
   > >>>> and the wealthy and the government has nearly crushed the middle class.   
   > >>>>  But that just what Socialism does.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> so you don't like the wealthy either, good, that's a start   
   > >>>   
   > >>   
   > >> you jump to conclusions....  and wrong ones at that.   
   > >>   
   > >> What I said made it obvious that I don't like Government taking sides   
   > >> for one group over another because that's NOT treating "persons" equal   
   > >> under the law.   
   > >   
   > > so you are an egalitarian? that sounds like socialism to me   
   >   
   > I believe I said equal under the law... that's being a constitutionalist.   
   > A Socialist or egalitarian seeks to "force" people to become equal   
   > rather than suggesting we are created as equals with no titles of   
   > nobility and from that point we make of ourselves what we can and we're   
   > NOT equal in all areas like  political, economic, social, and civil   
   > rights for all people at all times and places.  But that *Government*   
   > must treat all persons equally everywhere all the time.   
   >   
   > That is different from egalitarians and Socialism that try to make   
   > people all equal in every way all the time and everywhere.   
   >   
   > We aren't always equal everywhere and the constitution was written to   
   > recognize that, and then an attempt was tried to refine that first   
   > attempt to get rid of titles of nobility and expand it to make   
   > "GOVERNMENT" treat all people equally.   
   >   
   > Unfortunately that has been corrupted by egalitarians and Socialists to   
   > try to *force* all people to be equal all the time and everywhere and   
   > that is a total failure and was always going to fail.  The original idea   
   > and the uncorrupted fix had it right.  We are all created equal "with no   
   > titles of nobility" and the government should then treat us equally   
   > under the law. The problem is egalitarians and Socialists corrupting   
   > that idea to their own ridiculous idea that all people are equal all the   
   > time everywhere. Which is NOT what the constitution or Amendment 14   
   > says.   
   >   
   > SO no I'm NOT egalitarian or Socialist, I actually support the   
   > constitution and NOT the corruption of it.   
      
   I believe all people are equal, I don't believe all people are the same   
      
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