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   BeamMeUpScotty to Keeley Crawford   
   Re: Economists are baffled about Obama's   
   24 Feb 15 16:33:05   
   
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   From: I-WAS-JUST-GANG-PROBED-BY-THE-ObamaRegime-SPY-NETWORK@IRS.   
   BI.NSA.CIA.EPA.ObamaCare.gov   
      
   On 2/24/2015 3:48 PM, Keeley Crawford wrote:   
   > In article ,   
   >  BeamMeUpScotty   
   >    EPA.ObamaCare.gov> wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2/23/2015 3:25 PM, Keeley Crawford wrote:   
   >>> In article <8UqGw.1849134$fW3.1163593@fx05.fr7>,   
   >>>  BeamMeUpScotty   
   >>>  >>  EPA.ObamaCare.gov> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 2/22/2015 2:44 PM, Keeley Crawford wrote:   
   >>>>> In article ,   
   >>>>>  BeamMeUpScotty   
   >>>>>  >>>>  EPA.ObamaCare.gov> wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 2/22/2015 1:15 AM, Keeley Crawford wrote:   
   >>>>>>> In article <2Y4Gw.83017$Oy4.39216@fx17.iad>,   
   >>>>>>>  BeamMeUpScotty   
   >>>>>>>  >>>>>>  EPA.ObamaCare.gov> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On 2/21/2015 2:12 PM, Keeley Crawford wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> In article ,   
   >>>>>>>>>  BeamMeUpScotty   
   >>>>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>  A.   
   >>>>>>>>>  EPA.ObamaCare.gov> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 2/20/2015 7:57 PM, Keeley Crawford wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> In article ,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>  BeamMeUpScotty   
   >>>>>>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>  CI   
   >>>>>>>>>>>  A.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>  EPA.ObamaCare.gov> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/20/2015 2:16 PM, Keeley Crawford wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> In article ,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>  BeamMeUpScotty   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>  A.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>  CI   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>  A.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>  EPA.ObamaCare.gov> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/2015 2:10 PM, Keeley Crawford wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <3xoFw.2191782$1s.1636401@fx05.iad>,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  BeamMeUpScotty   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>  NS   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  A.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  CI   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  A.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  EPA.ObamaCare.gov> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/18/2015 6:36 PM, davidp@agent.com wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Economists are baffled about Obama's recovery   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By Robert J. Samuelson - Jan. 19, 2015   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The great wage mystery deepens. In economic recoveries, there   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comes a time when strong job gains lead to strong wage gains.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Businesses must pay more to recruit and retain the workers   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not this time - or at least not yet.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because there is NO recovery...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NO "green shoots"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No "summer of recovery"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No "Jobless recovery"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No "stocks led recovery"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No "ObamaCare stimulated Recovery"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No "Shovel Ready Jobs Recovery"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or any of the other half dozen recoveries we were told were   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happening....   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is NO recovery....   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there must be a recovery, the 1%er's keep getting richer   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> when did they ever stop getting richer?  The rich didn't have a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> recession. Just as the government didn't have a recession.  The   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> government just stole money from the rest of us. The poor didn't   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> suffer   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a recession.  In fact the Government increased it's deficits and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spending and that proves there was NO recession for the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> government.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rich got richer so there was NO recession for the wealthy.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> so they must have been stealing the money from the gov't, right?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Only if the government was first stealing the money from the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> middle   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> class.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> And that looks like what was happening, *borrowing the printed*   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> money   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> was theft and so the entire collapse and TARP and all the bailouts   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> was   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> paid for by the middle class which is why they have neither moved   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> forward or recovered since the collapse.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> "the gov't just stole from the rest of us", so you made my point,   
   >>>>>>>>>>> thank   
   >>>>>>>>>>> you   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Didn't seem like what you meant but if it was then great...   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Government stole from the middle class and redistributed it to the   
   >>>>>>>>>> poor   
   >>>>>>>>>> and the wealthy and the government has nearly crushed the middle   
   >>>>>>>>>> class.   
   >>>>>>>>>>  But that just what Socialism does.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> so you don't like the wealthy either, good, that's a start   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> you jump to conclusions....  and wrong ones at that.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> What I said made it obvious that I don't like Government taking sides   
   >>>>>>>> for one group over another because that's NOT treating "persons" equal   
   >>>>>>>> under the law.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> so you are an egalitarian? that sounds like socialism to me   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I believe I said equal under the law... that's being a   
   >>>>>> constitutionalist.   
   >>>>>> A Socialist or egalitarian seeks to "force" people to become equal   
   >>>>>> rather than suggesting we are created as equals with no titles of   
   >>>>>> nobility and from that point we make of ourselves what we can and we're   
   >>>>>> NOT equal in all areas like  political, economic, social, and civil   
   >>>>>> rights for all people at all times and places.  But that *Government*   
   >>>>>> must treat all persons equally everywhere all the time.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> That is different from egalitarians and Socialism that try to make   
   >>>>>> people all equal in every way all the time and everywhere.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> We aren't always equal everywhere and the constitution was written to   
      
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