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   On 3/30/2015 4:54 PM, Wayne wrote:   
   >   
   >   
   > wrote in message news:924jhal7forkb7i6c1ifraeiokkqdjs8pr@4ax.com...   
   >   
   > On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 08:36:08 -0700, "Wayne"    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >>>   
   >>> The bitching about the law is predictable.   
   >>> People are born gay, and people are born not gay.  Both should have   
   >>> legal   
   >>> protection from the other.   
   >>>   
   >>> The law is to protect individuals and organizations with known beliefs.   
   >   
   >> How can a person who CHOOSES to operate a business estabishment, that   
   >> is specifically to SERVE THE PUBLIC---be considered "picked on" if the   
   >> conditions under which they MUST agree to get a license---specifies   
   >> that you cannot discriminate.   
      
   That would be unconstitutional to force someone to agree to that to get   
   what is a right of the people, the right to association which is the   
   right to assemble (which is what a business license is).  The people   
   have the right to assemble but NOT on private property.  A business is   
   private property.  The government can't discriminate and that is in the   
   14th amendment but there is NO power delegated to force WE THE PEOPLE to   
   associate or allow people onto private property. Being in business   
   doesn't make the property government owned and so the 14th amendment has   
   no valid use on private party contracts or person to person commerce.   
      
   We already saw the Supreme Court strike down ObamaCare on the commerce   
   clause as a delegated power to use to force people to buy or engage in   
   "commerce" (That is why the court made ObamaCare a tax law) so the   
   commerce clause is NOT going to be used to force people to sell or buy.   
   NOT equally or any other way.  Because NOT selling is NOT commerce and   
   congress has no power to force you to buy or sell what you don't want   
   to.   
      
   >> The "woe is me" argument would only apply-IF a person is conscripted   
   >> into performing something he did not want to engage in universally.   
   >   
   >> A LICENSE is required to do business   
      
   It's NOT an agreement dependent on selling to anyone that walks into the   
   business. For instance a Motel/Hotel can turn people away and there is   
   NO 14th amendment that applies to a Motel/Hotel since they are NOT   
   government owned.  Government is required to treat people equally   
   government doesn't have the delegated authority to force you to kiss   
   someone and they can't force you to have sex with someone and they can't   
   force you to do business with someone.   
      
   But the government does have to treat everyone equal and that includes   
   businesses and customers.   
      
   >   
   >> A person is not required to "Be in business"---it is a CHOICE to do   
   >> so.   
      
   A person has a right to open a business and to be treated equal by the   
   government when they go into business, people have no such requirement   
   to treat other people equally, that infringes on our freedom.  A   
   business is the same as a person. sometimes it is a person other times   
   it's a group of people but they all have the same individual right. It's   
   the government that does NOT have that right as per the 14th amendment.   
      
   Discrimination can be a terrible thing but it's our right and when in   
   business it's still our right.  You can't sign away your rights that   
   takes an amendment to the constitution, do that and you sign away all   
   the peoples right to discriminate.   
      
      
   >   
   > OK, let's say a gay couple owns a restaurant (not too far of a logical   
   > stretch).   
   > A church group, known for very strict anti-gay beliefs, wants to hold an   
   > anti-gay fund raising event at that restaurant.   
   >   
   > Should the gay couple be FORCED to book the event?   
      
   Can a Lesbian customer force a hooker to have lesbian sex?   
      
      
      
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