XPost: alt.atheism, alt.conspiracy, misc.phone.mobile   
   XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.con   
      
   On 20/01/2020 8:31 pm, KWills Shill #2 wrote:   
   > On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 11:40:42 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 20/01/2020 1:17 am, KWills Shill #2 wrote:   
   >>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:49:40 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 18/01/2020 2:30 pm, nospam wrote:   
   >>>>> In article , Michael Christ   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Everything gets ramped up with 5g.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> not true.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> 5g mmw is low power short range.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> You're in denial.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Trusting in man, no doubt.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Well, we'll just see what happens when millions and millions of towers   
   >>>>>> go up around us and when masses of more information starts running   
   >>>>>> around and through us, won't you.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> cellphones have been around since the 1980s, became very popular in the   
   >>>>> 90s and today just about everyone has one, yet cancer rates have not   
   >>>>> increased at the rate cellphone usage did, plus early on, phones were   
   >>>>> analog and transmit power was a *lot* higher.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> and then there all the *other* sources of rf, including radio and tv   
   >>>>> transmitters, which are *far* more powerful than anything a cell tower   
   >>>>> could ever possibly put out, by several orders of magnitude.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> No one sits on a radio and TV transmitter 24/7!   
   >>>   
   >>>        No one sits on a cellular tower 24/7.   
   >>   
   >> You are a cell tower!   
   >>   
   >   
   >       Are you pretending to be delusional? If not, please get   
   > professional help.   
      
   It doesn't take that much of a lateral thought to gather that in.  I   
   don't think that was too difficult to understand.   
      
   On your device in a busy area you are the convergence of many   
   electromagnetic signals and so is everyone else.   
      
   But if your vested interest is just to make me appear like an idiot to   
   build your case, okay.  That is all too common.   
      
      
      
   >   
   >> And multiply that many fold over with 5g.   
   >>   
   >   
   >       So I would be *many* cell towers? Really?   
      
   You are being disingenuous yet again, but in a sense, yes.   
      
      
   >>>> There will be millions and millions of these towers all around us in   
   >>>> close proximity!  The density of mobile phones in a square meter on a   
   >>>> bus full of people in New York.  Think along those lines.  Short, medium   
   >>>> to long term effects nothing?   
   >>>   
   >>>        Do you have evidence that anything more dangerous than we face   
   >>> now will occur?   
   >>   
   >> Do you have evidence that it is not?   
   >>   
   >   
   >       Avoidance noted.   
      
   You did just that.  I have on my side millions and millions of these   
   very high traffic towers all around us in close proximity and you   
   dismiss it as nothing.   
      
   If you look there are many well educated people who are heralding a   
   strong warning about this.  Are they all fools, nothing to see here folks?   
      
      
   >       It befalls you to prove your claim. I do not have to disprove it.   
      
   So you claim.   
      
   It is not about proving, it is about intuition and experience in life,   
   just like it is for you.   
      
      
   >   
   >> It is you that is bringing unnatural into the natural world more and   
   >> more and more and more with no abating.   
   >>   
   >   
   >       Your delusion that I developed 5G is amusing.   
      
   Another disingenuous statement.  What do you hope to gain, superiority   
   by dishonestly painting your opponent as a fool?  That is a very weak   
   position.   
      
   Man decided to bring these types of things into our lives, like the   
   pollution from cars, the plastic in the oceans, murdering babies in the   
   womb, all kinds of pollution from our actions, destruction of the   
   environment, animal, insect, atmosphere and so on.   
      
   But man still marches on hoping there will be no tipping point, 5g   
   (ramped up communication electromagnetic radiation) filling our world   
   with all the more 'unnatural', it is just another thing.   
      
   Nothing to see here folks is for you, not for me.   
      
      
   >   
   >> Anytime that is done that is unnatural means trouble one way or another.   
   >>   
   >> And please, don't insult my intelligence with, 'What?'. I see no   
   >> increase of cancer through man's deeds or something as stupid.   
   >>   
   >   
   >       You've yet to offer anything that would support, let alone prove,   
   > your delusions to be real.   
      
   Nobody is proving anything here.  It is ignorance and hypocrisy to   
   demand proof because everything is belief.  You are surmising, because   
   you can't predict the future, and I am surmising, but the truth will   
   appear in time.   
      
   Take it or leave it.   
      
      
   >   
   >>>> You are trying to convince yourself 5g is nothing but a harmless   
   >>>> butterfly. It is not natural.   
   >>>   
   >>>        Neither are computers. Or the Internet. Odds are, the clear   
   >>> majority of your life is made up of that which is not natural.   
   >>   
   >> Of course, man has changed the whole planet with his ways.  It is not an   
   >> argument to compare an orange with an orange.   
   >>   
   >   
   >       And, over all, man is doing well. There are exceptions, of   
   > course. But those are in the minority.   
      
   If I had said that you would have said, where is the proof and it is   
   incumbent on you to prove it!  There is a lot of hypocrisy in you.   
      
   By the way, the concern over global warming, CO2 in the atmosphere   
   skyrocketing, the bleaching of the reefs, the over-fishing, the   
   glyphosate present in our food and us, Fukushima (not over), millions   
   tonnes of oil sitting on the floor in the gulf (still leaking by the   
   way, and don't mention the toxic dispersants) is doing well??  There are   
   so many many things, we are deforesting the earth which has to have a   
   huge effect on the ecology and animal and insect populations of the   
   world on which we depend.   
      
   There are so many things we are doing that eventually it is going to   
   come to a head.  We all know that intuitively but we are hoping we can   
   *fix it*.  What does that tell you??  In case that doesn't get through,   
   it means we are doing the wrong things.   
      
   If you could see the amount of the pollution across the world in all   
   it's content you wouldn't be so flippant and quick to say the above.   
   Also, we haven't even looked at man's inhumanity to man...and that is   
   not getting better.   
      
   For instance, wars continue and all too common, school shootings, church   
   sitting duck shootings, murder, rape, suicide, home invasions, bashing,   
   rioting, the deceit of big business and big pharma and so on.  It is   
   easy to say that is just being negative, but in the world you are trying   
      
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