XPost: alt.atheism, alt.conspiracy, misc.phone.mobile   
   XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: compuelf@gmail.com   
      
   On Tue, 21 Jan 2020 08:03:38 +1100, Michael Christ   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 20/01/2020 8:31 pm, KWills Shill #2 wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 11:40:42 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 20/01/2020 1:17 am, KWills Shill #2 wrote:   
   >>>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:49:40 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 18/01/2020 2:30 pm, nospam wrote:   
   >>>>>> In article , Michael Christ   
   >>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Everything gets ramped up with 5g.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> not true.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> 5g mmw is low power short range.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> You're in denial.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Trusting in man, no doubt.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Well, we'll just see what happens when millions and millions of towers   
   >>>>>>> go up around us and when masses of more information starts running   
   >>>>>>> around and through us, won't you.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> cellphones have been around since the 1980s, became very popular in the   
   >>>>>> 90s and today just about everyone has one, yet cancer rates have not   
   >>>>>> increased at the rate cellphone usage did, plus early on, phones were   
   >>>>>> analog and transmit power was a *lot* higher.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> and then there all the *other* sources of rf, including radio and tv   
   >>>>>> transmitters, which are *far* more powerful than anything a cell tower   
   >>>>>> could ever possibly put out, by several orders of magnitude.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> No one sits on a radio and TV transmitter 24/7!   
   >>>>   
   >>>>        No one sits on a cellular tower 24/7.   
   >>>   
   >>> You are a cell tower!   
   >>   
   >>       Are you pretending to be delusional? If not, please get   
   >> professional help.   
   >   
   >It doesn't take that much of a lateral thought to gather that in.  I   
   >don't think that was too difficult to understand.   
   >   
   >On your device in a busy area you are the convergence of many   
   >electromagnetic signals and so is everyone else.   
   >   
   >But if your vested interest is just to make me appear like an idiot to   
   >build your case, okay.  That is all too common.   
   >   
      
        I don't think I accept and transmit cellular data. But present   
   your evidence that I do.   
        I'm waiting...   
      
   >>> And multiply that many fold over with 5g.   
   >>   
   >>       So I would be *many* cell towers? Really?   
   >   
   >You are being disingenuous yet again, but in a sense, yes.   
   >   
      
        Not in any sense.   
      
   >>>>> There will be millions and millions of these towers all around us in   
   >>>>> close proximity!  The density of mobile phones in a square meter on a   
   >>>>> bus full of people in New York.  Think along those lines.  Short, medium   
   >>>>> to long term effects nothing?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>        Do you have evidence that anything more dangerous than we face   
   >>>> now will occur?   
   >>>   
   >>> Do you have evidence that it is not?   
   >>   
   >>       Avoidance noted.   
   >   
   >You did just that.  I have on my side millions and millions of these   
   >very high traffic towers all around us in close proximity and you   
   >dismiss it as nothing.   
   >   
   >If you look there are many well educated people who are heralding a   
   >strong warning about this.  Are they all fools, nothing to see here folks?   
   >   
      
        You fail to support, let alone prove, the idea that we will face   
   any more dangers than we do now.   
      
   >   
   >>       It befalls you to prove your claim. I do not have to disprove it.   
   >   
   >So you claim.   
   >   
   >It is not about proving, it is about intuition and experience in life,   
   >just like it is for you.   
   >   
      
        So your making a factual claim was just you being dishonest. Got   
   it.   
      
   >>> It is you that is bringing unnatural into the natural world more and   
   >>> more and more and more with no abating.   
   >>   
   >>       Your delusion that I developed 5G is amusing.   
   >   
   >Another disingenuous statement.  What do you hope to gain, superiority   
   >by dishonestly painting your opponent as a fool?  That is a very weak   
   >position.   
   >   
      
        I'm not dishonestly painting you as a fool. It is quite honest.   
      
   >Man decided to bring these types of things into our lives, like the   
   >pollution from cars, the plastic in the oceans, murdering babies in the   
   >womb, all kinds of pollution from our actions, destruction of the   
   >environment, animal, insect, atmosphere and so on.   
   >   
   >But man still marches on hoping there will be no tipping point, 5g   
   >(ramped up communication electromagnetic radiation) filling our world   
   >with all the more 'unnatural', it is just another thing.   
   >   
   >Nothing to see here folks is for you, not for me.   
   >   
      
        You haven't addressed your claim that I developed 5G. Will you do   
   so now, or shall everyone reading accept that you are unable?   
      
   >>> Anytime that is done that is unnatural means trouble one way or another.   
   >>>   
   >>> And please, don't insult my intelligence with, 'What?'. I see no   
   >>> increase of cancer through man's deeds or something as stupid.   
   >>   
   >>       You've yet to offer anything that would support, let alone prove,   
   >> your delusions to be real.   
   >   
   >Nobody is proving anything here.  It is ignorance and hypocrisy to   
   >demand proof because everything is belief.  You are surmising, because   
   >you can't predict the future, and I am surmising, but the truth will   
   >appear in time.   
   >   
   >Take it or leave it.   
   >   
      
        So you were being dishonest when you presented the claim as fact.   
   Got it.   
      
   >>>>> You are trying to convince yourself 5g is nothing but a harmless   
   >>>>> butterfly. It is not natural.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>        Neither are computers. Or the Internet. Odds are, the clear   
   >>>> majority of your life is made up of that which is not natural.   
   >>>   
   >>> Of course, man has changed the whole planet with his ways.  It is not an   
   >>> argument to compare an orange with an orange.   
   >>   
   >>       And, over all, man is doing well. There are exceptions, of   
   >> course. But those are in the minority.   
   >   
   >If I had said that you would have said, where is the proof and it is   
   >incumbent on you to prove it!  There is a lot of hypocrisy in you.   
   >   
      
        If your god does exist, you clearly have a demon of lying in   
   control of you.   
      
   >By the way, the concern over global warming, CO2 in the atmosphere   
   >skyrocketing, the bleaching of the reefs, the over-fishing, the   
   >glyphosate present in our food and us, Fukushima (not over), millions   
   >tonnes of oil sitting on the floor in the gulf (still leaking by the   
   >way, and don't mention the toxic dispersants) is doing well??  There are   
   >so many many things, we are deforesting the earth which has to have a   
   >huge effect on the ecology and animal and insect populations of the   
   >world on which we depend.   
   >   
   >There are so many things we are doing that eventually it is going to   
   >come to a head.  We all know that intuitively but we are hoping we can   
      
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