XPost: alt.atheism, alt.conspiracy, misc.phone.mobile   
   XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.con   
      
   On 21/01/2020 9:32 pm, KWills Shill #2 wrote:   
   > On Tue, 21 Jan 2020 08:03:38 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 20/01/2020 8:31 pm, KWills Shill #2 wrote:   
   >>> On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 11:40:42 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 20/01/2020 1:17 am, KWills Shill #2 wrote:   
   >>>>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:49:40 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 18/01/2020 2:30 pm, nospam wrote:   
   >>>>>>> In article , Michael Christ   
   >>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Everything gets ramped up with 5g.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> not true.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> 5g mmw is low power short range.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> You're in denial.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Trusting in man, no doubt.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Well, we'll just see what happens when millions and millions of towers   
   >>>>>>>> go up around us and when masses of more information starts running   
   >>>>>>>> around and through us, won't you.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> cellphones have been around since the 1980s, became very popular in the   
   >>>>>>> 90s and today just about everyone has one, yet cancer rates have not   
   >>>>>>> increased at the rate cellphone usage did, plus early on, phones were   
   >>>>>>> analog and transmit power was a *lot* higher.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> and then there all the *other* sources of rf, including radio and tv   
   >>>>>>> transmitters, which are *far* more powerful than anything a cell tower   
   >>>>>>> could ever possibly put out, by several orders of magnitude.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> No one sits on a radio and TV transmitter 24/7!   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>         No one sits on a cellular tower 24/7.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You are a cell tower!   
   >>>   
   >>>        Are you pretending to be delusional? If not, please get   
   >>> professional help.   
   >>   
   >> It doesn't take that much of a lateral thought to gather that in.  I   
   >> don't think that was too difficult to understand.   
   >>   
   >> On your device in a busy area you are the convergence of many   
   >> electromagnetic signals and so is everyone else.   
   >>   
   >> But if your vested interest is just to make me appear like an idiot to   
   >> build your case, okay.  That is all too common.   
   >>   
   >   
   >       I don't think I accept and transmit cellular data. But present   
   > your evidence that I do.   
   >       I'm waiting...   
      
   Grow up, please.   
      
   You a skewing the conversation into nonsense to try and make me out a   
   fool.  Disingenuous and a weak argument.   
      
   Information is coming and going on your mobile phone all the time and   
   when you are in close proximity to many others and heaps of 5g towers   
   electromagnetic radiation has to increase many many fold.   
      
   Not natural.   
      
   A little arsenic is okay but a lot, that is another kettle of fish.  Can   
   you extrapolate that, please, or are you going to say that I say 5G   
   towers are arsenic!  :-).   
      
      
   >   
   >>>> And multiply that many fold over with 5g.   
   >>>   
   >>>        So I would be *many* cell towers? Really?   
   >>   
   >> You are being disingenuous yet again, but in a sense, yes.   
   >>   
   >   
   >       Not in any sense.   
      
   You've done it above...again.  Disingenuous.   
      
      
      
   >   
   >>>>>> There will be millions and millions of these towers all around us in   
   >>>>>> close proximity!  The density of mobile phones in a square meter on a   
   >>>>>> bus full of people in New York.  Think along those lines.  Short, medium   
   >>>>>> to long term effects nothing?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>         Do you have evidence that anything more dangerous than we face   
   >>>>> now will occur?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Do you have evidence that it is not?   
   >>>   
   >>>        Avoidance noted.   
   >>   
   >> You did just that.  I have on my side millions and millions of these   
   >> very high traffic towers all around us in close proximity and you   
   >> dismiss it as nothing.   
   >>   
   >> If you look there are many well educated people who are heralding a   
   >> strong warning about this.  Are they all fools, nothing to see here folks?   
   >>   
   >   
   >       You fail to support, let alone prove, the idea that we will face   
   > any more dangers than we do now.   
      
   I told you, I don't have to prove anything to you.   
      
      
      
      
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>>        It befalls you to prove your claim. I do not have to disprove it.   
   >>   
   >> So you claim.   
   >>   
   >> It is not about proving, it is about intuition and experience in life,   
   >> just like it is for you.   
   >>   
   >   
   >       So your making a factual claim was just you being dishonest. Got   
   > it.   
      
   I don't make a claim unless I believe it to be true.   
      
      
      
      
   >   
   >>>> It is you that is bringing unnatural into the natural world more and   
   >>>> more and more and more with no abating.   
   >>>   
   >>>        Your delusion that I developed 5G is amusing.   
   >>   
   >> Another disingenuous statement.  What do you hope to gain, superiority   
   >> by dishonestly painting your opponent as a fool?  That is a very weak   
   >> position.   
   >>   
   >   
   >       I'm not dishonestly painting you as a fool. It is quite honest.   
      
      
   Wanker.   
      
      
   >   
   >> Man decided to bring these types of things into our lives, like the   
   >> pollution from cars, the plastic in the oceans, murdering babies in the   
   >> womb, all kinds of pollution from our actions, destruction of the   
   >> environment, animal, insect, atmosphere and so on.   
   >>   
   >> But man still marches on hoping there will be no tipping point, 5g   
   >> (ramped up communication electromagnetic radiation) filling our world   
   >> with all the more 'unnatural', it is just another thing.   
   >>   
   >> Nothing to see here folks is for you, not for me.   
   >>   
   >   
   >       You haven't addressed your claim that I developed 5G. Will you do   
   > so now, or shall everyone reading accept that you are unable?   
      
   I would have loved your perverted context child games if I was still a   
   teenager.   
      
   Man developed 5G.  You are man and you love your toys and fuck the   
   consequences.  It is that simple.   
      
      
   >   
   >>>> Anytime that is done that is unnatural means trouble one way or another.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> And please, don't insult my intelligence with, 'What?'. I see no   
   >>>> increase of cancer through man's deeds or something as stupid.   
   >>>   
   >>>        You've yet to offer anything that would support, let alone prove,   
   >>> your delusions to be real.   
   >>   
   >> Nobody is proving anything here.  It is ignorance and hypocrisy to   
   >> demand proof because everything is belief.  You are surmising, because   
   >> you can't predict the future, and I am surmising, but the truth will   
   >> appear in time.   
   >>   
   >> Take it or leave it.   
   >>   
   >   
   >       So you were being dishonest when you presented the claim as fact.   
   > Got it.   
      
      
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