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   From: compuelf@gmail.com   
      
   On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 07:58:03 +1100, Michael Christ   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 21/01/2020 9:33 pm, KWills Shill #2 wrote:   
   >> On Tue, 21 Jan 2020 08:12:49 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 20/01/2020 8:31 pm, KWills Shill #2 wrote:   
   >>>> On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 11:43:43 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 20/01/2020 1:18 am, KWills Shill #2 wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 11:11:19 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On 18/01/2020 11:58 pm, KWills Shill #2 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 14:22:00 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On 18/01/2020 10:14 am, nospam wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> In article , Michael Christ   
   >>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Everything gets ramped up with 5g.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> not true.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> 5g mmw is low power short range.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> You're in denial.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>          He (I am presuming nospam is male, but I could be wrong) is   
   100%   
   >>>>>>>> correct on this. It's not as if 5G's strength is a secret.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Trusting in man, no doubt.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>          It was man who developed 5G.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> And nukes and bombs and guns and plastic filling the oceans and all   
   >>>>>>> pollution and global warming and road rage and war and and and and and   
   >>>>>>> and and and and and and.....................................   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Great point!!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>         And vaccines, and health care that helps reduce illness. Man has   
   >>>>>> found a way to make science understandable. An so on.   
   >>>>>>         Your god, if he exists, has either caused directly or permitted   
   a   
   >>>>>> great deal of suffering. If such a god exists, he, she or it should be   
   >>>>>> disregarded.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Sweep it all under the carpet but sooner or later!   
   >>>>   
   >>>>        Your desperate avoidance of the truth is noted.   
   >>>>        If your god does exist, he is extremely evil.   
   >>>   
   >>> You made your choice.   
   >>>   
   >>> It's not mine.  Is that okay by you?   
   >>   
   >>       Sure. Your belief in god does me no harm. But don't think I'm not   
   >> going to counter any claims you make about your god actually existing.   
   >   
   >Unless you have infinite knowledge no counter claim can be proven, but   
   >go ahead.  You will anyway.   
   >   
      
        If I had infinite knowledge, I would be a god. If I were a god, I   
   wouldn't deny my existence. But I am not a god. There is no sound   
   reason to believe any god exists.   
      
   >>>>>>>>> Well, we'll just see what happens when millions and millions of   
   towers   
   >>>>>>>>> go up around us and when masses of more information starts running   
   >>>>>>>>> around and through us, won't you.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>          Massive amounts of information has been running around and   
   >>>>>>>> through us for decades. This has been the case since, at least, radio   
   >>>>>>>> was new.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> You need to do some learning, Bubba.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>         I am well educated. That you think only the uneducated can prove   
   >>>>>> you wrong is an interesting position for you to express.   
   >>>   
   >>> Michael Christ wrote:   
   >>>>> Isn't it amazing, atheists all do the same thing.  You have an arm and a   
   >>>>> knife, you slash your arm and go, look at what God has done if He exists.   
   >>>   
   >>>>        I've done no such thing. If your god does exist, then Satan and   
   >>>> his demons do as well. And you prove you have a demon of lying that   
   >>>> controls you.   
   >>>>        If your god does exist, and I've seen nothing to support a claim   
   >>>> that he does, he has a great deal to answer for.   
   >>>   
   >>> He does, or you do.  :-).  I don't agree with your belief that you are   
   >>> good and God is evil.   
   >>   
   >>       I'm human. I can do good or I can do evil.   
   >   
   >Who told you that?  Let me guess, a human?   
   >   
   >Thus, humans are God.   
   >   
      
        It is far more plausible than not that humans invented gods.   
      
   >> I don't need a god of   
   >> any sort to force me to be good.   
   >   
   >You can't be.   
   >   
      
        Huh?   
      
   >>> However when you can create just one cell, then you can get back to me   
   >>> and I would give you reasonable consideration for a valid opinion.   
   >>   
   >>       Mitosis is well documented. I can offer a number of cites, if you   
   >> wish.   
   >   
   >So you created cell division?  Amazing. How did you do this?  Was it by   
   >rubbing two stones together??   
   >   
   >Do it from scratch.  No man can.   
      
        Do cease your moving of the goal post. It's not clever.   
      
   >>> You chose what you got and it is your bleeding arm.   
   >>>   
   >>> Now go all 5g on me (I won't be as far as I am able) and I will watch   
   >>> what happens to you before I make any further decisions.   
   >>>   
   >>> And thanks for that.   
   >>   
   >>       At present, I don't have any device that uses 5G. In time I, like   
   >> everyone who uses mobile devices, will have to upgrade. But so long as   
   >> 4G works, I'm content. Probably because I rarely use my phone for web   
   >> surfing, or other applications that would benefit from the faster   
   >> speed. You can count the number of times I've accessed Facebook with   
   >> my phone on both hands, and have some digits to spare.   
   >>       By way of example, I noticed no appreciable difference in the   
   >> speed of texting between 3G and 4G.  > I don't expect to notice any with   
   >> 5G.   
   >   
   >Everything is going wifi/cell tower data, everything.  Your toaster,   
   >your lights, your TV, your car, your toilet seat.  You will have a   
   >device in your home that will respond to your voice and doing everything   
   >you ask it.   
   >   
      
        The lights already do that. Well, Google Home actually controls   
   the lights. Members of the family have to tell it to turn the lights   
   on or off.   
        With the Amazon Fire Stick on the TV in the master bedroom, the   
   wife or I can use Alexa to show various things in the TV. It's an   
   older TV. If I remember correctly, we got it in 2005. It's HD, but   
   it's not a Smart TV.   
      
   >My wife bought me this device for Christmas, it is called Alexa...not   
   >expensive.  It was an eye opener.  "Alexa, how do you spell   
   >'conspicuous', Alexa, turn the lights on...less brightness, Alexa, what   
   >is the weather forecast today, Alexa, what is the news, Alexa, turn the   
   >TV off, Alexa, play soft hits of the 80s, Alexa, tell me a joke...you   
   >get the idea.   
   >   
      
        I do. With all the devices we have, we have Alexa, Siri and   
   Google's assistant. I use Google the most.   
      
   >It's coming and it is here and with my understanding and experience of   
   >human nature, Alexa is like a car is to the road.  Like TVs, everyone   
   >will be hooked up, only this device, or something akin to it, will not   
      
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