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   From: f00@0f0.00f   
      
   Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote:   
   > jojo wrote:   
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   Œ»ðŸ’�🌷🌺🌈 wrote:   
   >>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 19:58:32 +0000, LO AND BEHOLD; jojo   
   >>>    
   >>> determined that the following was of great importance to jojo   
   >>>  and subsequently decided to freely share it with   
   >>> us in   
   >>> <27a04f00-156f-c44a-02ba-9b863ae33516@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>:   
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   Jen   
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   >>> Dershmendenderer   
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   >>> 🌹🌻ðŸ’�🌷   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 🌺🌈 wrote:   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 19:14:29   
   >>> +0000, LO AND BEHOLD; jojo    
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= determined that the following   
   >>> was of great importance to jojo   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=  and   
   >>> subsequently decided to freely share it with us in   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> <648b135c-e7db-b0b0-6a7e-5924c35e60db@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>:   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= marg wrote:   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Fri, 25 Jul 2025 18:36:23   
   >>> +0000, jojo wrote:   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= their entire perspective on   
   >>> humanity   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= and life changes after they   
   >>> have =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= returned from space. i think   
   >>> it should be mandatory for everyone to   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= goto space for at least a day.   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= No   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= thanx.  I can't take heights.   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= the concept of height   
   >>> vanishes once   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= you are in orbit, you just   
   >>> feel a =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= few   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= g's on the way up.   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Too bad you'll never   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= know, eh?   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= that's just dumb, you dont   
   >>> anything about what's going to happen.   
   >>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=   
   >>>   
   >>> I understand basic logistics, jojo.  In fact, I understand   
   >>> them VERY well.   
   >>>   
   >>> If we can't make society work efficiently here on Earth it's   
   >>> not going to bode very well off-planet.   
   >>>   
   >>> It takes a very naive person to think that humanity is going   
   >>> to survive conditions that we haven't evolved to survive.   
   >>>   
   >>> One thing that's going to be a problem is if/when human gut   
   >>> flora evolve or go extinct.  You do realize that we are a part   
   >>> of an interconnected web of organic life, right?  You can't   
   >>> just move to a new planet or solar system without bringing   
   >>> most of the life that supports us.  Getting that off of our   
   >>> planet is not feasible.  I would not expect it to be feasible   
   >>> for several hundred years.   
   >>>   
   >>> But you just keep believing every fucking huckster with a   
   >>> spaceship company and a seig heil...   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> we have to start somewhere, before spacex and elon, there was   
   >> no such vision. i dont trust any government entity to be   
   >> capable of such an undertaking as they are horrible capital   
   >> allocators.   
   >>   
   >> first step is humans on moon again and a permanent rotating   
   >> settlement there, then setting up of mars, which obviously will   
   >> take decades before resembling anything self sustainable.   
   >   
   >   
   > What about reports that Mars is a graveyard?  Why not Europa?   
   > It's the most Earth-like celestial object in the solar system.   
   >   
      
   europa is too far for now, plus jupiter generates huge magnetic   
   field that needs to be shielded against.   
      
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