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|    Daniel =?utf-8?Q?Gr=C3=B6ber?= to All    |
|    Now what? On FTP Master division into Ar    |
|    26 Jan 26 00:40:01    |
      From: dxld@darkboxed.org              Hello Debian,       Hello World,              Over the last month Community Team has recognized increasing concern among       the community about the ongoing process to change responsibilities over the       Debian Archive driven by Debian Project Leader - Andreas Tille.              Now that the DFSG Team delegation is official I would like us to take a       moment for us to reflect and               - Try to address some of the concerns and confusion we've seen,                - Share some of what has been happening behind the scenes and               - Introduce the [freshly minted] team and their work so far.              [freshly minted]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce       2026/01/msg00008.html "New delegation for DFSG, Licensing & New Packages Team       (superseding previous announcement) - Jan 2026"                     == Context ==              I have been acting as an observer to the transition process from the start       in order to better understand the perspectives involved. I've been sitting       in on meetings between new DFSG team prospects and the DPL as well as       receiving much of the internal communication between them and the long       established FTP Master, or rather now [Archive Operations] team.              [Archive Operations]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-anno       nce/2025/10/msg00003.html "New delegation for Debian Archive Operations Team -       Oct 2025"              I have drafted this mail in collaboration with members of the new DFSG       Team, other members of Community Team and the DPL.                     == What's going on ==              For almost *two decades* now the FTP Master delegates and their team       carried an enormous responsibility in our project:               - Maintaining the availability and security of Debian's critical package        archive and                - Diligently reviewing each and every NEW package that enters Debian.              In short: they've been ensuring stability for the foundation Debian is       built upon.              Their work has been essential to the project, and all of us inside and       outside the Debian project owe them a great debt of gratitude.              At the same time several consecutive DPLs as well as many project delegates       have observed that FTP team has been facing increasing challenges in some       important aspects of their responsibilities:               - Recruiting as well as retaining new team members,               - Keeping the project as a whole informed of their activities,               - Being open to the project's input in order to adapt to a changing world.              That state of affairs ultimately led to one team member carrying the vast       majority of, the team's ongoing package review workload.                     Most recently [96.87%] of it to be exact.              For years now.              With no change in sight.              Let that sink in for a minute.                     [96.87%]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2025/11/msg00222.html              While this level of dedication to Debian volunteer work is truly admirable       the imbalance in workload is not a hallmark of a well-functioning team and       has resisted repeated attempts at improving the situation.              Within the Debian community, there have long been complaints about the       unpredictability of NEW processing time as well as nontransparent and rigid       policy on both licensing and technical aspects.              Along with the team's existing challenges this has created palpable       frustration among Debian Developers, package Maintainers, and, reportedly,       even more far-flung members of our community alike.              While /effectively/ single-person teams are an unfortunate reality in some       areas of Debian it's simply not a sustainable state of affairs for one of       *the most foundational* areas of our project.                     == A way forward ==              Over the years several DPLs have recognized the situation, but did not find       or execute on solutions instead leaving it for their successors.              Now, instead of letting us continue to avoid facing these challenges even       longer DPL Andreas has, in my view, courageously made the decision to try       and improve a very difficult situation based on a brilliant idea originally       proposed by a member of FTP team itself:              Working towards a division of responsibilities over the Debian Archive by       creating two distinct delegated roles.              Basically:               - Debian Archive Operations - the same people as FTP Master previously               - DFSG, Licensing & New Packages Review - led and organized by new people              In my personal view the idea itself represents a powerful compromise that       makes the best of a very difficult situation.              It has the best chance out of all the other strategies considered at       retaining the invaluable know-how accrued by the existing team and allowing       them to focus on what they already excel at: running and maintaining the       archive's technical foundation.              All while at the same time balancing their needs with the Debian       community's need for more openness, predictability and a policy-making       process for NEW package acceptance that reflects our project's shared       values.              Throughout the process of re-forming DFSG Team, delegates of Archive Team       (previously, FTP master) have been kept in the loop and were invited by       Andreas and others on the team to collaborate in a positive manner, above       and beyond what our Code of Conduct would require.                     == Call for Kindness and Patience ==              Organizational changes like the one before us are never easy. People who       have had a certain responsibility for long enough it's become part of their       identity can feel hurt or even threatened by the most well-intentioned and       most carefully executed of changes.              It is clear to me hurting people or the project is not the intention of       anyone involved, yet we're all fallible humans. While we should recognize       individual limitations, we must remain kind to one another to have a chance              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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