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   Mike Drechsler - SPAM PROTECTED EMA to davidl@yourmama.com   
   Re: Using a VPN to logon to a domain usi   
   10 Apr 05 03:55:30   
   
   XPost: cp.products.vpn-1, mailing.comp.vpn   
   From: mike-newsgroup@-DELETETHISPART-.upcraft.com   
      
   davidl@yourmama.com wrote:   
   > Hi again,   
   >   
   > I am oviously not sure where the problem lies. Internally everything   
   > works great. When I VPN in the server share has to be remapped and the   
   > LDAP service and related Exchange account has to be erased and put   
   > back into the mail settings every time. I have read the slow link   
   > pages on Microsoft but I don't see how that would fix this. I need to   
   > be able to log on to the server with the VPN already established if   
   > that is possible.   
   >   
   > On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:41:45 GMT, Mike Drechsler - SPAM PROTECTED   
   > EMAIL  wrote:   
   >   
   >   
   >>davidl@yourmama.com wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>I am using a highspeed connection (4.5 Mb DSL) to connect to the   
   >>>internet. I then use a VPN client to connect to the endpoint (FVS318).   
   >>>I would like to find a way to log directly onto the DC using this   
   >>>setup so the mappings (and LDAP) remain intact. The DC is already set   
   >>>to NOT update GP settings  on a slow link detect (< 128Kb/s) . I   
   >>>appreciate the attempted help but I don't see how this applies in my   
   >>>case as the mappings and LDAP are failing on the client side not on   
   >>>the DC.   
   >>>   
   >>>On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 04:01:13 GMT, Mike Drechsler - SPAM PROTECTED   
   >>>EMAIL  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>davidl@yourmama.com wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>How can I log on to a domain not using cached credentials , this is to   
   >>>>>resolve mapping and Exchange (LDAP) issues . The client connects fine   
   >>>>>and is solid but the drives have to be remapped everytime and Exchange   
   >>>>>has to be reconfigured on every boot as well. Any help would be   
   >>>>>appreciated. I am trying to us the Netgear client onto an FVS318 but   
   >>>>>the principle is all that is needed. I don't see how to use "logon   
   >>>>>using dialup connection " when the VPN client is not shown as an   
   >>>>>available connection.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Change your slow link detection thresholds in group policy on your   
   >>>>domain controller.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>For more info you might want to do some searches on "slow link   
   >>>>detection" on microsoft's technet website, or google.  Also the newsgroup:   
   >>>>microsoft.public.windows.server.active_directory   
   >>>>Will be better at dealing with this problem if you can't find the info.   
   >>   
   >>Le me put this another way.   
   >>   
   >>Q: How does the VPN relate to LDAP or drive mappings?   
   >>A: It doesn't.  They are 2 separate and distinct pieces of technology   
   >>and as long as the IP link is established, you do not have a problem   
   >>with the VPN.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>If you are having trouble with Exchange, then why are you posting in VPN   
   >>newsgroups?  As long as your VPN connection is giving you IP level   
   >>connectivity to the server and assigning the correct DNS and WINS   
   >>servers then your problem is not with the VPN.   
      
   Many things are tied to slow link detection.  The workstation stays in   
   offline mode if the link to the login server is detected as slow.   
      
   There is also the possibility that your VPN connection is not configured   
   properly for DNS and WINS server settings.  If your VPN client is given   
   the IP of your ISP's DNS server instead of the internal active directory   
   DNS server your client will not even know that it's connected to the   
   corporate network.  It needs to lookup some special records in DNS when   
   you connect.  Every time you bring up a new connection with the   
   microsoft client bound to it, the client will attempt to locate the   
   domain controller to see if you just connected to the corporate network.   
     If it cannot find the domain controller because you are giving the   
   client the wrong DNS settings then this will also cause the problem you   
   describe.   
      
   If the client is getting all the correct DNS and WINS settings when you   
   connect but the link is detected as being slow then you will not   
   automatically reconnect network shares.  You will not get login scripts   
   to run.  The client will not download certain group policy changes.   
   Exchange probably has it's own behaviour on a slow link but I'm not   
   familiar with it right now.   
      
   To test you can connect the vpn and try to ping:   
   gc._msdcs.DOMAIN  where DOMAIN is the full domain name of your active   
   directory you are trying to log on to.  eg: if you configured your   
   active directory to be marketing.yourmama.com you would test by doing:   
   ping gc._msdcs.marketing.yourmama.com   
   If you DNS is working while connected to the VPN it should resolve to   
   the IP address of one of your global catalog domain controllers.  If   
   it's not then you will get a failure.  Though strangely enough after   
   trying my example I now notice that there is a wildcard entry for the   
   yourmama.com domain so anything and everything *.yourmama.com will   
   resolve to the ip 64.40.102.41.  Maybe a bad example but it does at   
   least illustrate that even if your ping command generates a response you   
   should double check to make sure that the IP returned is a correct one.   
     In the case of the global catalog servers the dns lookup should report   
   one of the domain GC's at random due to the round robin dns   
   configuration that is used for this lookup.  If you only have a single   
   GC server then you will always get the same IP.  If you don't flush your   
   DNS cache you will keep getting the same IP reported until your local   
   resolver cache expires.  (You can flush the local DNS cache by using the   
   ipconfig /flushdns command)   
      
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