From: simon@not-here.com   
      
   finite9 wrote:   
   > Thanks for the tip about the pass through option in the client!  I had   
   > noticed that when viewing the information about the connection, when   
   > connected without the router, then it would say NAT Traversal disabled.   
   >  I wasn't sure at the time, if it was just saying that because I wasn't   
   > using NAT or because the option was turned off, thus implying that it   
   > could be manually configured.   
   >   
   > The problem is that my client seems to be of the 'locked down' type,   
   > where the company has disabled options--I have no such option in my   
   > client to enable pass through, in fact there are no connection options   
   > at all other than auth. and name server options, but maybe its worth a   
   > shot getting a pirate copy of the full (open) client to see if the   
   > option exists?   
   >   
   > My main problem, and the reason for searching on usenet, is that my   
   > companys IT department point blank refuses to help me fixing this   
   > problem because "it works fine without the router" and they "dont   
   > support routers when using VPN".  Totally absurd stance if you ask me.   
   > This also means that I cannot get support from Nortel because you need   
   > to go through your account manager: you cannot simply ask for Nortel   
   > support as an end user.   
   >   
   > It was interesting what you said about not being able to simply open   
   > port 500 for IPSec.  Maybe this explains why I had to use port   
   > triggering, and why it doesn't work as it should even then?  If the   
   > IPSec VPN option within the router is not functioning as it should with   
   > this firmware, then what you say implies that I will not get this   
   > working simply by enabling ports in 'port forwarding' due to the NAT   
   > aspect of the connection?   
   >   
   > Regards,   
   > Andrew   
   >   
   Hi,   
   Sorry I can't help much on this, but that attitude of " "it works fine   
   without the router" and they "dont   
   support routers when using VPN". " seems totally obsurd to me, would   
   they rather people were without the protection of nat/routers all the   
   time they don't connect to the office then catch something and then   
   connect into the corporate network ? - idiots if you ask me.   
      
   Simon   
      
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