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   JM to nospam@nospam.com   
   Re: vpn for voice application   
   07 Apr 07 22:09:06   
   
   From: jakem38671omitthis@yahoo.com   
      
   I sincerely appreciate your reply.   
   Here are some answers and further info.   
      
      
      
   > Each site has a unique private subnet such as site-A=192.168.10.0 and   
      
   > site-B=192.168.25.0   
      
   That is the plan.   
      
      
      
   > Each site has more then one available fixed (static) public IP address.   
      
   The main site has two fixed Ips (can likely get more if necessary); the   
   remote site has only one.   
      
      
      
   > Each site has a good firewall (Cisco PIX or ASA, even a PIX 501 would do).   
      
   The main site has a Sonicwall TZ 170; the remote site will have a Sonicwall   
   SOHO3.   
      
      
      
   > Each site has sufficient bandwidth to support 100Kbps per active call,   
   > plus   
      
   > your internet traffic.   
      
   The main site has a dynamic T1 product capable of 1.2Mb/700Kb (down/up); the   
   remote site has Bellsouth DSL being installed in a few days. In my   
   experience, that will provide similar speeds, perhaps a bit slower, surely   
   on the upload side. Two Norstar T7316 phones will be installed in the remote   
   location. The voice traffic is light, and I expect simultaneous use of the   
   phones only rarely. There will be two PCs in the remote office connected to   
   the network. I need them connected via VPN so they can access an Excel   
   spreadsheet on a workstation in the main location.   
      
      
      
   > Each site has a router that will provide prioritization (QoS) to your   
   > voice   
      
   > traffic, won't help over the internet but at lease your voice will get out   
      
   > ahead of the data traffic.   
      
   Not at this point. The Sonicwall is the only router in the main location,   
   and so far I only have the Soho3 for the remote location.   
      
      
      
      
   > Normally I wouldn't recommend using an internet connection, since there is   
      
   > no QoS between sites you could get wildly varying performance and dropped   
      
   > connections. Definitely don't use it for client/customer calls, and   
   > internal   
      
   > calls only if they understand the possible problems.   
      
   I agree. I've done MCK and VoIP in general over p2p connections a few times,   
   but only twice over internet - once with very good results and once with   
   awful results. I'm hopeful that bandwidth and the low quantity of phones and   
   the light voice traffic in general (in the remote office, anyway) are all on   
   my side.   
      
      
      
   > In the firewall create a translation for the private IP of each MCK to an   
      
   > available Public IP. Allow inbound traffic for the UDP range and TCP used   
   > by   
      
   > the MCK. Unlike SIP, the MCK uses both UDP, for voice, and TCP, for   
      
   > signaling. You can get these from MCK. Point each MCK at the others Public   
      
   > address, and set a pass-code/password. That's really all there is to it.   
      
      
   I have not thought of it this way. Are you suggesting one-to-one NAT (which   
   indeed would necessitate at least two ip addresses at each location - one   
   for voice, one for data)? Alternatively, would port forwarding work? Which   
   raises another question I've never considered: Does port forwarding   
   introduce delay to the traffic, perhaps making it a poor method for voice?   
      
   If I'm reading your suggestion correctly, then we don't really create a   
   "vpn," but rather we point the MCK units at each other's static IP (which is   
   accomplished via a public-to-private ip address translation) ??   
      
   Thank you again,   
      
   Jm   
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
   "RC"  wrote in message   
   news:46127042$0$32552$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...   
   > Done many a MCK like this. I do need a little more   
   > information/clarification.   
   >   
   > When you say on the same network please tell me the subnet addressing in   
   > the two sites isn't the same. This could cause problems. I'll make some   
   > assumption, you can consider these recommendations as well.   
   >   
   > Each site has a unique private subnet such as site-A=192.168.10.0 and   
   > site-B=192.168.25.0   
   > Each site has more then one available fixed (static) public IP address.   
   > Each site has a good firewall (Cisco PIX or ASA, even a PIX 501 would do).   
   > Each site has sufficient bandwidth to support 100Kbps per active call,   
   > plus your internet traffic.   
   > Each site has a router that will provide prioritization (QoS) to your   
   > voice traffic, won't help over the internet but at lease your voice will   
   > get out ahead of the data traffic.   
   >   
   > Normally I wouldn't recommend using an internet connection, since there is   
   > no QoS between sites you could get wildly varying performance and dropped   
   > connections. Definitely don't use it for client/customer calls, and   
   > internal calls only if they understand the possible problems.   
   >   
   > In the firewall create a translation for the private IP of each MCK to an   
   > available Public IP. Allow inbound traffic for the UDP range and TCP used   
   > by the MCK. Unlike SIP, the MCK uses both UDP, for voice, and TCP, for   
   > signaling. You can get these from MCK. Point each MCK at the others Public   
   > address, and set a pass-code/password. That's really all there is to it.   
   >   
   >   
   > --   
   > RC   
   > rcohen_at_cominc_dot_net   
   >   
   > The only thing I guaranty about my free advice is that it's mine and it's   
   > free.   
   >   
   > "JM"  wrote in message   
   > news:buSdnb2ooseFpJLbnZ2dnUVZ_hSdnZ2d@comcast.com...   
   >> I'm setting up some MCK voip gateway/branch units to extend our PBX over   
   >> an internet connection to a remote office.  I don't need security, but   
   >> rather a point-to-point connection, where the branch unit is on the same   
   >> network as the gateway unit.  Therefore, I need two hardware units   
   >> pointed at one another.  I have a static public IP at each location.   
   >>   
   >> Recommendations?  Have I provided enough info?   
   >>   
   >> thank you,   
   >>   
   >> jm   
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