From: mvmishler@nospam---yahoo.com   
      
   Just like everything else surrounding Linksys and their products, this still   
   doesn't make sense:   
      
   I have four of these routers all updated to the latest firmware and NONE of   
   them would pass PPTP. This is proof to me that it's not firmware updating   
   process doing it. It's the faulty, undertested firmware!   
      
   You seem to be ok with the fact that you sometimes get "bad" technical   
   support from them. I think it sucks. It's a blatent reminder that things   
   that are inexpensive are MORE expensive. By the time you get done   
   fixing/replacing them, the darn things have costed you or your company a   
   fortune. They are the Packard Bell of the network hardware world. You   
   think you're getting a bargain, but hidden is the huge cost of the support   
   you'll soon be providing fixing their junk.   
      
   Thanks, but no thanks   
      
   ~Michael   
      
      
      
   "hazardous" wrote in message   
   news:befebf78.0402031639.1ba22d@posting.google.com...   
   > 1.I use firmware 1.41.1, Sep 04 2003 forwarding PPTP without any issue   
   > to an NT4 server. I've used the same router on a different connection   
   > with the same firmware forwarding to a Win2K RAS via PPTP with no   
   > problems.   
   > 2.Firmware can get corrupted during download and flashing if you have   
   > antivirus software active. I've seen it happen and had it confirmed by   
   > one of their product developers. I deployed 50 of these units at my   
   > last job and only experienced the following issues.   
   >   
   > a)DHCP sometimes does not provision properly to end users   
   > b)first batch of routers had flakey power supplies that would make it   
   > look like the hardware was fried by keeping the diag light solid.   
   > Change the power supply and it was fine.   
   > c)IPSEC tunnels renegotiating sporadically before key lifetime   
   > expired. Due to having "anti-replay" enabled   
   > d)Remotely changing something on the router in the earlier firmwares   
   > would cause the router to hang and sometimes screw up the firmware.   
   > You'd have to re-flash.   
   >   
   > 3.If Linksys is such a sorry company why did Cisco purchase them "A   
   > Fortune 500 company" for 1/2 a billion dollars? I've had good support   
   > and bad from Linksys but hell it's free at least. I've had good and   
   > bad support from Dell and Intel as well so I wouldn't paint such broad   
   > strokes. I would say Linksys is the most innovative SOHO   
   > networking/hardware company out there. They have come out with some of   
   > the coolest products in the last few years and no one comes close to   
   > the price points. Microsoft has put out 45 or more fixes for XP since   
   > it was released which is pretty lame. But I still think they make good   
   > innovative products. There are pros and cons to everything is my   
   > point.   
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   > "Michael Mishler" wrote in message   
   news:<2fITb.165635$Rc4.1286269@attbi_s54>...   
   > > Actually most of this was already done, including the culprit, step #2:   
   > >   
   > > > 2. Reset the Linksys and update it to the latest firmware.   
   > >   
   > > The latest firmware for hardware version 1.0 BEFVP41 causes PPTP traffic   
   to   
   > > cease. I had to actually obtain and downgrade my firmware version to   
   the   
   > > second-to-the-last version. After that it worked great.   
   > >   
   > > I can understand your troubleshooting diagram, and it is good but you   
   should   
   > > be careful in providing technical information (and it is appreciated) to   
   the   
   > > public, because I would have gone out spending money taking your advice   
   and   
   > > it wouldn't have helped.   
   > >   
   > > Bottom line in the matter is that Linksys is a sorry company, with even   
   > > sorrier tech support as they have not helped me a bit. Some very   
   helpful   
   > > gentlemen took the time to email me what he did to fix it and it worked   
   > > great.   
   > >   
   > > Thanks   
   > >   
   > > ~Michael   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > >   
   > > > Take it in stages.   
   > > > 1. Connect the PC directly to the internet (take out the Linksys) and   
   make   
   > > > sure the VPN works. If it doesn't fix that first.   
   > > > 2. Reset the Linksys and update it to the latest firmware.   
   > > > 3. Connect the PC to the Linksys and ping the server. Personally I'd   
   never   
   > > > put a server of any kind directly on the internet, most real firewalls   
   can   
   > > > be VPN servers as well.   
   > > > 4. Try the VPN connection, if it works great if not go to step 5   
   > > > 5. Change the internal subnet of the Linksys. You will have to renew   
   the   
   > > > address or reboot the PC (I've assumed you are using DHCP on the   
   Linksys).   
   > > > 6. Try the VPN again, it should work. If not, and it worked in step 1   
   then   
   > > > I'd say you have a bad Linksys.   
   > > >   
   > > > Like I said I've got a half dozen of these in use and have yet to   
   change   
   > > > anything more then the password.   
   > > >   
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   > > >   
   > > > "Michael Mishler" wrote in message   
   > > > news:Mj3Qb.104350$5V2.440470@attbi_s53...   
   > > > > Just running this by the NG for suggestions:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > I have a Windows 2000 Server SP4, with a VPN server running on it.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Recently I replaced my Netgear RT314 router with a Linsksy BEFVP41   
   VPN   
   > > > > router   
   > > > >   
   > > > > I'm trying to remotely connect to my VPN server but cannot through   
   my   
   > > > > BEFVP41 router.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > I've forwarded port 1723 and allowed PPTP passthrough, but stops at   
   the   
   > > part   
   > > > > where it authenticates the username and password and gives an error   
   > > message   
   > > > > 620 or something like that.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Linksys website suggested a couple of things like forwarding port   
   47,   
   > > and   
   > > > > 440-443 but they didn't work.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > I've tried DMZ, and nothing seems to work.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Has anyone gotten the BEFVP41 firmware 1.41.1 to pass PPTP?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > thanks for your suggestions   
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