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   Message 353 of 629   
   Ronnie Clark to Ian Salsbury   
   Re: Why'd you kill 'em off?   
   09 Feb 05 17:49:41   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.tv.uk.comedy, alt.comedy.british   
   From: ronnie@blugman.freeserve.co.uk   
      
   "Ian Salsbury"  wrote in message   
   news:cudh4a$iug$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...   
   >   
   > Quite often the writers/actors want to leave the show on a high and go and   
   > do something else. Typecasting is a part of it as well. There are loads of   
   > great British comedies that stopped whilst still incredibly popular -   
   Fawlty   
   > Towers, The Young Ones, Phoenix Nights, Father Ted ( it had already been   
   > anounced to be the last series before the death of Dermot Morgan ), Black   
   > Adder etc. Contrast that with shows that went on past their sell by date -   
   > Red Dwarf springs to mind. If you leave something go whilst it`s on a high   
   > people will remember it more fondly.   
      
   I absolutely agree. Situation comedies are just not sustainable quite simply   
   because you either a) run out of ideas with that situation (it gets boring)   
   or b) you have to change the situation (people moan that it's too   
   different). Some of the comedy greats of the past, where even the most   
   ludicrous basic situations were used, started to wear thin after a while.   
      
   Father Ted being a good point in case: Is there anything more outrageously   
   ridiculous for a sit-com idea as three priests sent to live together on a   
   small island because they are either money launderers, complete idiots or   
   raving alcoholic perverts? But by the end of the third series, even that was   
   starting to get a little humdrum and having to push outside its format.   
      
   A lot of people complain that British comedies are generally only made in   
   series of 6 episodes at a time, and rarely see a 4th series, but ultimately   
   I think that's what makes them so memorable. They stopped while they were   
   fresh and new. Those that people now look on as tired and old are those that   
   just ambled on for series after series never really going anywhere. Allo   
   Allo, The Brittas Empire, Red Dwarf, My Family, Are You Being Served?, etc.   
   all continued for just too long, becoming pale shadows of some former (if   
   only moderate at times) greatness.   
      
   And what do all those shows also have in common? Cast members abandoning a   
   sinking ship. True, in Red Dwarf's case some were wooed back, but that did   
   not recapture the humour. With My Family, the departure of Kris Marshall   
   left an otherwise dreary programme completely foundering in the back waters   
   of patheticness.   
      
   When I see just how unsustainable the short British comedies are with their   
   6 a year format, when I look at most American offerings with their 24-26 a   
   year formats (often, therefore, a single season containing more installments   
   than an entire run of a British show) I find that it's no wonder that there   
   is a huge amount of padding and dross between the occasional sparkling   
   moments. I have to confess, I stuck with Friends to the bitter end. But just   
   somehow, it never really recovered from the atrocity of the third season. It   
   was old BEFORE it continued for another 7 years. I'm not saying that I found   
   it all to be total crap (otherwise I wouldn't have collected them all -   
   though, admittedly, always at Christmas when they were BOGOF sales!), as   
   with any comedy there is always a good moment here and there, but the   
   storylines towards the end just tended towards the absolutely inevitable   
   (with the finale being the most predictable installment of any programme   
   ever, and I include Hi-De-Hi in that!).   
      
   So to get back to the original question, I think the reason why some actors   
   leave shows (as it is usually the actors choice rather than the producer's)   
   is because they recognise that stagnation occurs very quickly. It's the   
   sensible ones who leave, while the ones who stay are generally clinging onto   
   something that they can't see has already gone!   
      
   Ronnie   
      
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