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   Robert Riebisch to Marco van de Voort   
   Re: Long filename support in Windows Vis   
   23 Aug 07 11:19:47   
   
   From: Robert.Riebisch@arcor.de   
      
   Marco van de Voort wrote:   
      
   >> Last TP release is from 1993. So what? It's still used widely.   
   >   
   > You are comparing a production compiler with 7 major iterations, and one of   
   > the most succesful compilers of all time to this thing which even the author   
   > itself calls experimental (in italics for extra emphasis even) ?   
      
   I don't "compare". I just want to make clear, that "old" doesn't mean   
   "useless". I still use DOS.   
      
   > something new if you don't have to, but it is not a compelling reason to   
   > advise sb TP.   
      
   I didn't advise TP. ;-)   
      
   >>> see something in it. (while to be honest, I also initially thought it was a   
   >>> joke, the contrast of something nonfunction with the big ones, which you   
   >>   
   >> Why do you think, IP doesn't work? Did you try it?   
   >   
   > Till now you haven't really made a point yet to even bother to try.   
      
   Hey, you don't need to try it, but then don't say "something nonfunction".   
      
   >> Free Pascal or Delphi *are* bloated compared to Turbo Pascal for DOS!   
   >   
   > And TP is bloated to assembler. So what? You are still using TP aren't you?   
      
   I compared Pascal compilers, not programming languages.   
      
   > I've 16 byte assembler .com's that do something, and TP minimal size is   
   > larger than 1000 bytes even!!!   
      
   That's why I use TP rarely these days.   
      
   >> Delphi 7 Personal "only" takes ~90 MiB on my PC. For what? I only need a   
   >> tenth part of its features.   
   >   
   > (If that worries you, you obviously haven't tried a BDS version then :-)   
      
   That's right.   
      
   > Still, I'd never use TP nowadays to save a couple tens of megs out of HD   
   > systems that count space in hundreds of GBs, with the TB barrier coming into   
   > plain sight.   
      
   But sum those tens of megs for every "stupid" development system (DJGPP,   
   Cygwin, MinGW, Delphi, Free Pascal, ...) one needs for open source   
   projects...   
      
   > Why? Three major reasons:   
   >   
   > - limit string lengths. (yes you can emulate with pchar, but if I would   
   >   consider that adequate stringsupport, I would use C)   
   > - 16-bit limits on structures.   
   > - API problems (LFN being one of them)   
      
   All nice, but what, if you don't need these?! ;-)   
      
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   Robert Riebisch   
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