From: marcov@stack.nl   
      
   On 2007-08-23, Robert Riebisch  wrote:   
   > Marco van de Voort wrote:   
   >   
   >>> Last TP release is from 1993. So what? It's still used widely.   
   >>   
   >> You are comparing a production compiler with 7 major iterations, and one of   
   >> the most succesful compilers of all time to this thing which even the author   
   >> itself calls experimental (in italics for extra emphasis even) ?   
   >   
   > I don't "compare". I just want to make clear, that "old" doesn't mean   
   > "useless".   
      
   In IP's case it was the combination of OLD, experimental and not supported.   
      
   > I still use DOS.   
      
   For?   
      
   >>> Why do you think, IP doesn't work? Did you try it?   
   >>   
   >> Till now you haven't really made a point yet to even bother to try.   
   >   
   > Hey, you don't need to try it, but then don't say "something nonfunction".   
      
   I trust the moniker "experimental" from the author in italics.   
      
   >>> Free Pascal or Delphi *are* bloated compared to Turbo Pascal for DOS!   
   >>   
   >> And TP is bloated to assembler. So what? You are still using TP aren't you?   
   >   
   > I compared Pascal compilers, not programming languages.   
      
   The relevance is about the same.   
      
   >>> Delphi 7 Personal "only" takes ~90 MiB on my PC. For what? I only need a   
   >>> tenth part of its features.   
   >>   
   >> (If that worries you, you obviously haven't tried a BDS version then :-)   
   >   
   > That's right.   
      
   (you haven't missed much)   
      
   >> Still, I'd never use TP nowadays to save a couple tens of megs out of HD   
   >> systems that count space in hundreds of GBs, with the TB barrier coming into   
   >> plain sight.   
   >   
   > But sum those tens of megs for every "stupid" development system (DJGPP,   
   > Cygwin, MinGW, Delphi, Free Pascal, ...) one needs for open source   
   > projects...   
      
   Then you have a GB. About one euro worth of diskspace. Even if you need a 10   
   of these immense beasts.   
      
   >> - limit string lengths. (yes you can emulate with pchar, but if I would   
   >>   consider that adequate stringsupport, I would use C)   
   >> - 16-bit limits on structures.   
   >> - API problems (LFN being one of them)   
   >   
   > All nice, but what, if you don't need these?! ;-)   
      
   Then I'd wonder what you actually do with a programming language.   
      
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