XPost: alt.startrek, alt.tv.star-trek, alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise
From: e.furnissfam@verizon.net
> What is really need is a lot of pink slip for the current writer/producer
> team to see what can be salvaged of ENT and then when that has run it's
> course take us back to the future of the TNG era I think.
Agreed. I had no problem with the prequel. Just didn't think this was the
way to do it. It seems to me that the biggest problem with ENT and VOY was
that the shows are all about the premise...the ship's lost in space, the
temporal war...instead of being character driven the shows are premise
driven. What made TNG, TOS and DS9 so damn good was that the characters
became larger than the premise. Trek already has a built in premise...to
boldly go where no one has gone before. I didn't like or care about any
character in VOY or ENT and the premise wasn't enough to bring me back every
week.
> What you're responding to was a really egregiously bad act of writing for
> his character rather than Wheaton himself. I know I used to 'hate' him
too,
> and still don't enjoy very many episodes with him in them, but it's the
> writing, not him. He's convinced me he's a really cool dude as his own
> person.
I don't hate Wheaton, he's probably a nice enough bloke. I always hated the
character and I never want to see him again. Plus he owes me 12 bucks. We
agree to disagree on this one.
> I'd like to see Colm Meany as Chief Engineer O'Brien but I don't know
what
> happened to him at the end of DS9
Went to teach at the academy.
>I don't know how much I like the "just outta
> the Academy" idea I like. I hated the cadet thing in TWOK for instance
which
> was silly.
The cadets in TWOK weren't characters but extras. My idea is that this
character is assigned to his first posting. Over the course of the show he
learns what it means to be a Starfleet officer. He's human, he has failings
and insecurities...a little bit like Sisko in the pilot of DS9. Like John
Carter on ER just because you're a hotshot in everything you do your whole
life, it doesn't mean squat when you're working with people just as talented
or more talented than you.
Eric
"Elvis Gump" wrote in message
news:BBFE80A4.27941%elvisgump@NOhotmailSPAM.com...
> in article gz8Cb.1934$rr4.1263@nwrddc02.gnilink.net, Eric Furniss at
> e.furnissfam@verizon.net wrote on 12/11/03 7:09 PM:
>
> >>> Can you say Cap'n Crusher?
> >>>
> >>> :-) Too 'young', but 'Science Officer Lt. (or Lt. Cmndr.) Crusher
sounds
> >>> very, very likely. He has proven himself, /more/ than adept, at
science to
> >>> hold a fine rank in that position.
> >>>
> >> I agree. I think he would be better in the acting department now as an
adult
> >> anyway. He was not directed very well as a child actor.
> >>
> >
> > Has it come to this? We would actually like to see the return of Will
Wheaton
> > over Enterprise? If this is the best we can do it's time to give Trek a
rest.
> > I'd have no problem following Riker and the adventures of the Titan but
I
> > always hated Wesley Crusher and I've never seen anything from Will
Wheaton
> > that would lead me to believe he could carry a show.
>
> I might have felt that way about Wheaton had I not seen him on TV or read
> his online blog these past few years.
>
>
> We owe Wil Wheaton the actor a big break because any of us trust into that
> situation of bad writing like he was wouldn't have done much better.
>
> > How do you feel about a show featuring cast members from TNG, DS9 and
Voyager
> > with a few new bloods thrown in? Riker could be captain, have a new
alien
> > first officer ( anything but a vulcan), have Bashir or the Doctor from
Voyager
> > (the real Zimmerman this time), Chief O'Brien, Geordi, Ezri Dax and
maybe
> > Paris or Kim. Kim would be easier as you wouldn't have to write in a
part for
> > his Klingon love interest.
>
> Right, that's sort of what I was suggesting. I can't really speak to who
is
> good from other series because all I know is TNG and a little Voyager. I'd
> like to see Colm Meany as Chief Engineer O'Brien but I don't know what
> happened to him at the end of DS9 or even that he'd want to do more Trek
as
> may be the case of many of the wished for actors we'd want.
>
> > One or two of the new characters could be fresh out of the academy
assigned to
> > the Titan, the cream of Starfleet's crop (other than the decommissioned
> > Enterprise). This young Ensign would be like John Carter in the early
days of
> > ER. Learning what it's like to be a Starfleet Officer.
> >
> > There..that's my idea...have at it kids and tear my idea apart.
> >
> > Eric
>
> That's somewhat the idea I had. I don't know how much I like the "just
outta
> the Academy" idea I like. I hated the cadet thing in TWOK for instance
which
> was silly. OTOH say finding great actors like the then young Ashley Judd
as
> Lefler was great and more of that kind of stuff could and should happen.
>
> ENT almost managed that once with the wonderful actress whose name I
forget
> that just recently died which was a great shame. She was a real standout.
>
> There are things I would miss if ENT goes like the guy who plays Trip. I
> think he's better in his part than anyone on ENT but it's somewhat still a
> letdown like the writing for him and Blalock.
>
> The cast of ENT isn't really that bad but the writing is pure crap and the
> concept hasn't really lived up to the billing. They have basically dumbed
> down the entire concept of TNG and not really told the story from a more
> limited technology or frontier kind of view.
>
> What is really need is a lot of pink slip for the current writer/producer
> team to see what can be salvaged of ENT and then when that has run it's
> course take us back to the future of the TNG era I think.
> --
> "There is such a fine line between genius and stupidity."
> -- David St. Hubbins, "Spinal Tap"
>
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